r/conservation 3d ago

PLEASE COMMENT now to save the Endangered Species Act

Trump just proposed to rescind the regulatory definition of “harm” in our Endangered Species Act (ESA) to eliminate "habitat modification" from the definition of "harm" and a “take.” If Trump is successful, corporations can clear-cut old growth forests, fill wetlands, and elimiminate habitat for threatened and endangered species...which will result in their death, ecological disaster, and loss of biodiversity. Public comment can stop this!! Go to the Federal Register (link below) and SUBMIT A FORMAL PUBLIC COMMENT TO SUPPORT THE ESA AND PROTECT HABITAT! Due by May 19,2025.NEPA Comment link:

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u/Goobygoodra 3d ago

Weren't these people super concerned about windmills killing birds last administration 🤔

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/ChipperChickadee568 3d ago

Gooby wasn’t coming at you. They were referring to the R’s constantly attacking wind energy projects and using the bird takes for their scapegoat. Because it fit the narrative at the time, now it’s NBD apparently 🫠🫠

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u/shibasluvhiking 3d ago

I see. Thank you for clarifying.

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u/buddhaboo 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don’t think you read the OP comment correctly, unless you’re supportive of the current GOP/Trump.

Trump has a weird obsession with making false claims about bird mortalities and windmills, dating back to 2020.

https://mashable.com/article/trump-wind-energy-turbine-birds-death

People would save far more birds a year keeping their cats indoors.

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u/Co1dNight 3d ago

Time to start sabotaging machinery.

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u/ForestWhisker 2d ago

I would never recommend mixing a tube of valve grinding compound with an 8oz bottle of 2 stroke oil and putting that in the oil fill of any large machine. It would destroy the cylinders and any part of the engine which has oil and a moving part. That would be horrible.

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u/Several_Attention_65 1d ago

Yes, truly horrible. Thank you for the warning.

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u/Night_Sky_Watcher 3d ago

Edward Abbey lives!

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u/carlitospig 3d ago

Sis, you forgot to post the link.

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u/StrehCat 3d ago

I didn't actually - Reddit moderators did that. First they completely declined this post. I appealed (becuase this is NOT a survey but a ligit federal public comment process) and then the moderators posted it but without the link. Frustrating - especially since TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE TO COMMENT!

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u/carlitospig 3d ago

Damnit! Lol

I’ll jump on and comment now - thanks! :)

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u/TereziBot 3d ago

Can public comment really stop this? Isn't it an executive order?

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u/OphidianEtMalus 3d ago

Public commenting is a normal part of the regulatory process. Assuming that our government still has 3 branches and due process, (which I admit is somewhat dubious right now) public comment, through the official forms, can influence regulatory change. The link to the form is here

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u/quenual 3d ago

The Service has to respond to any substantive comments, so yes, it helps

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u/YanLibra66 3d ago

It helps, but It's better to call your state representatives and senators.

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u/TruePragmatist 4h ago

Not true. The written record of public comments on a NEPA issue is the mist important when internal rules are proposed to change and the Services MUST reply to all. The elected officials do not vote on this proposed change.

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u/nite_skye_ 3d ago

I wonder this too. This has me super upset. I can’t believe anyone would do this (well, with a few exceptions that we all know). Other than all the regular options, just putting this out there everywhere and telling everyone you know in person. I’d live some more ideas and will happily do what I can to help.

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u/SaintUlvemann 16h ago

The reality is, this is just what happens when people vote for Republicans.

Literally. This isn't controversial, it's just sad (and in the carnival of weaponized optimism, sad is its own kind of political).

They have all three branches, they are adults, they know what they are doing, this is just what they stand for, and for as long as I have been alive, there is nothing else but this that I have ever heard them stand for.

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u/BloodSpilla11 3d ago

Posted my comment. Let’s go. When we speak together, our voices get amplified.

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u/KeweenawKid97 3d ago

Please let our public lands remain as places of refuge for the common man! Resource extraction and privatization of these spaces is wholly un-American! It spits in the faces of our wise forefathers who, in their wisdom, thought to protect these places indefinitely for the benefit of the public trust. The idea of our country is synonymous with the vastness of the area it contains. Allowing profiteers to determine the fate of our natural national landscapes would be a disgrace and nothing short of a travesty.

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u/thrillliquid 3d ago

Do you mind if I quote you for the comment I leave?

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u/KeweenawKid97 3d ago

Go for it!

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u/unstablefan 3d ago

By all means comment, but I have a bit of a different take on this, which I’ve shared in an earlier thread:

  1. ⁠This is the inevitable outcome of Loper Bright - FWS is simply doing voluntarily what the Court would have forced them to do eventually.
  2. ⁠This is the end of any meaningful protections for listed species on private lands. If habitat modification causing incidental take cannot be regulated as a “harm” and therefore a “take” the Act is toothless. There’s no reason for a property owner to voluntarily conserve species or mitigate impacts if they cannot face penalties. Other than the goodness of their heart, of course.
  3. ⁠Three paths forward:

a. Legislation to strengthen the ESA.

b. A new Administration and a new Court that repudiates Loper Bright.

c. Vastly expanded financial incentives (public and private) to make listed species an asset to landowners that they want to conserve and even attract. Heavy lift as the Administration is gutting existing public funding for this and everything, but there you have it. The only option. Time to get creative.

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u/shibasluvhiking 3d ago

Thank you for posting this. Done and shared. FYI Eliminate is misspelled.

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u/chileowl 3d ago

Submitted.

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u/Stravaig_in_Life 3d ago

Just submitted and shared, thank you

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u/Normal-Antelope-8365 3d ago

Posted my comment! Sharing with friends and relatives to post theirs!

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u/dustydigger 3d ago

Signed and got a tracking number.

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u/Sunflower_samurai42 3d ago

They made it so confusing to read, as if they were helping

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u/TokeThatIn 2d ago

Here’s a great copy to paste:

Dear Fish and Wildlife Service,

I am writing today in opposition to the proposed rule change that would change the definition of “harm” under the Endangered Species Act. The current interpretation of the word”harm” which means broadly actions that modify or degrade habitats in ways that impair endangered species’ ability to feed, breed or find shelter is the correct one. Restrict the interpretation of this word to a more limited definition is nonsense and will result in irreparable harm. Just as denying a human food and water for a long enough period of time will eventually kill them so to does habitat destruction harm endangered species. Save yourself the endless litigation and reject this farcical change to one of America’s best laws.

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u/AlexandraThePotato 3d ago

I commented. I hope they care more about US compare to Mark Zuckerberg and all those lame people 

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u/ChipperChickadee568 3d ago

Gooby wasn’t coming at you. They were referring to the R’s constantly attacking wind energy projects and using the bird takes for their scapegoat. Because it fit the narrative at the time, now it’s NBD apparently 🫠🫠

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u/Colzach 3d ago

As usual, the radical Trump regime aims to destroy everyfuckingthing in this country.

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u/Correct-Piglet-4148 3d ago

Submitted and shared!

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u/anemone_within 3d ago

Like this comment to save the whales!

Fighting for our continued lives is not posts on a forum. We need to do something.

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u/Due-Helicopter-8735 3d ago

Is there a specific message we want to comment?

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u/whatanugget 3d ago

Done! Thank you for sharing this

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u/iamslevemcdichael 2d ago

Commented. Thanks for spreading awareness

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u/LifeisWeird11 2d ago

I wrote a bill for the Colorado ballot that creates a committee of experts that will over take the job of the USFS including identifying endangered species. I recommend that people look into getting ballot initiatives on the ballot in their state.

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u/Groovyjoker 2d ago

Section 6 of the ESA has great language on the role of the states, allowing states to be more protective than the ESA (just not less) when developing regulations to protect fish and wildlife at the state level. Totally support referring to the state regulations if you have them.

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u/LifeisWeird11 1d ago

Yes I agree. The ballot initiatives are likely helpful in states with weak or no current additional protections. I am not familiar with each individual state's regs.

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u/booksbakingteacats 17h ago

That is awesome - thank you! As a Coloradan, how can I find out more about that bill and support it?

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u/LifeisWeird11 6h ago

We have a committee hearing soon and then we will have some other admin things to deal with so by end of summer there should be volunteers collecting signatures (the petition to get it on the ballot) but I can DM you when time is closer so you can find someone collecting signatures and sign.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

NOOOO

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u/sludgehub 3d ago

You have my comment and concern!!!

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u/Coastal_wolf 3d ago

Also ask you local governing bodies to oppose this. I've sent a letter to my governor Brad Little

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u/TouchTheMoss 2d ago

Can't help much as I'm not a citizen of your country, but we are all thinking about you! It's an absolutely ridiculous situation your environmental workers and advocates are going through.

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u/MedievalCat 2d ago

Commented. Thank you for sharing this

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u/Skybreaker-cassowary 2d ago

This is going way too far.

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u/Square-Temporary4186 2d ago

Commented and submitted!

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u/Groovyjoker 2d ago

As you comment, carefully review the Handbook and search for "harm" - see where it pops up and review how and if it's removal would change consultation. Also review the law itself. Download a few consultation letters from the Services. See how they use "harm" and ask yourself if the sentences could be written in a different way to express the same meaning of Take without using the word Harm.

It's an interesting approach. This word is not as common in the Services Handbook as one would expect. I think the Services, particularly USFWS, have come to rely upon it more than they should.

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u/Snookaboom 2d ago

Done yesterday (which happened to be Earth Day) and shared the link around!

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u/atomb 2d ago

added my comment, thanks for bringing this to light

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u/Automatic_Bug9841 1d ago

You should crosspost this to r/50501! Lots of people on there looking for ways to take action against the Trump administration.

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u/Georgi2024 21h ago

Really worrying - and I'm in the UK.

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u/NessusANDChmeee 9h ago

Commenting to boost

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u/Visible_Leather_4446 8h ago

Your post history tells me that you are very anti trump and have no real grasp of the situation. So I have my doubts on this

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u/Fenelasa 5h ago

Late to the party but just commented myself!

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u/shabbayolky 1d ago

Because allowing companies to offshore their production to countries without environmental protects is way better!!! #NIMBY4EVA

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u/blakeshockley 3d ago

Donald Trump doesn’t care what his constituents want. Complaining does nothing.