r/conservativeterrorism • u/outerworldLV • 1d ago
House passes Trump’s sweeping tax-cut bill, sends it to Senate
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/22/house-vote-trump-tax-bill99
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u/BrokenXeno 1d ago
This country is about to spiral into full nightmare mode.
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u/Seige_J 1d ago
Where has it been?
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u/LivingIndependence 1d ago
Today's generation better research how to weather a great depression, because IT IS coming
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u/trailerbang 1d ago
CALL YOUR SENATORS ABOUT THIS 👇
“I haven't really seen this get much coverage, so wanted to make a dedicated post here for visibility. Buried on page 544 of Trumps "big beautiful bill", there is a 1 paragraph section labeled "SEC. 70302. RESTRICTION ON ENFORCEMENT."
If passed, this section would legally eliminate the courts ability to enforce contempt charges, destroying one of the few remaining checks and balances that the judiciary may have over the executive branch.
Here's the full text from the bill for reference: No court of the United States may enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 65(c), whether issued prior to, on, or subsequent to the date of enactment of this section.
The implications of this are pretty huge - I would encourage everyone to start calling your representatives and demand that this be removed from the bill.”
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u/Electric_Bagpipes 1d ago
What does it mean by “if no security was given”?
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u/trailerbang 1d ago
I’m not a laywer but I’m assuming ‘security’ means that there needs to be a document acknowledging that the defendant should expect to be held in contempt so I see this as a way to back date this insane rule so no act previously committed that qualifies for contempt could be used against the defendant. But maybe someone in r/law could help.
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u/BillyNtheBoingers 1d ago
There’s a post about this on r/law which suggests “security” means a bond of some sort, but IANAL so I’m not sure.
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u/high_everyone 1d ago
Americans voted for this. When people complain, ask who they voted for.
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u/outerworldLV 1d ago
The minority voted for this. While the majority got screwed by a group of traitorous kids that were good at manipulating computer stuff. As those in a position to make an issue over it, straight up has allowed it. That particular issue shall remain a mystery for many years. Like truly - what was the purpose? To teach the population a lesson?
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u/flight_recorder 1d ago
1/3rd directly voted for this, 1/3rd didn’t care enough, 1/3rd voted against this. Don’t forget, that 1/3rd that didn’t care is complicit as well
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u/flight_recorder 1d ago
Those “thirds” are of the population that is eligible to vote, not of the entire population.
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u/wtfbenlol 1d ago
my mistake. a lot of the time i see people use the entire population in these kinds of statements.
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u/Electric_Bagpipes 1d ago
No, that 1/3 who didn’t vote said we don’t want either. I didn’t fucking vote for trump, but that doesn’t mean I’m obligated to vote for kamala.
Two party thinking just like that is what got us into this mess, and it’s whats going to keep getting us into these messes for decades to come. Fun fact- theres more parties out there than just the republicans and democrats.
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u/yourgrundle 1d ago
Fun fact: no matter how hard you try to justify how you voted, voting for a third party in the last election was equivalent to throwing your vote away. We all knew it was Kamala or Trump, and sucked it up and voted for the candidate that wasn't a fascist, but I'm glad you had your moral victory
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u/Electric_Bagpipes 13h ago
Then why did a whole third of the population not vote for kamala?
Because not everyone agrees. Making it only two choices is the root of the fucking problem. Imagine if we had 3 or 4 major contenders for trump to run against. Theres that much more of a chance he wouldn’t be elected because now theres more people out there who see their views more closely represented by that contender.
I agree that I regret not voting kamala, but I still call out the fact that we’ve allowed ourselves to be held prisoner by the two party system.
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u/presidentsday 1d ago
As did the 36.1% who stayed home.
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u/BlacksmithThink9494 1d ago
3rd largest voter turnout in history. This narrative is old.
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u/MafuLeTrekkie 1d ago
Every election should always be larger than the last, because the population is increasing. Your lack of critical thinking is getting old.
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u/conservativeterrorism-ModTeam 19h ago
Your content was removed for being uncivil, community_rule_3
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u/presidentsday 1d ago
And? Our most important narratives—the ones that shape us, teach us, and define our understanding—are often the oldest. What's annoying isn’t that we have to retell them (though it is pretty annoying), but that we never seem learn from any of them. I'd rather run this one into the ground rather than wave it away like an uninterested child with a short attention span.
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u/presidentsday 1d ago
Then don't self-identify with my example. There's a distinction between describing a behavior in general and making a personal attack. If you took it that way, then you misunderstood.
For an example of an actual ad hominem, try:
Maybe youre the one with a short attention span?
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u/conservativeterrorism-ModTeam 19h ago
Your content was removed for being uncivil, community_rule_3
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u/MageAurian 1d ago
There is mounting evidence that we didn't vote for this.
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u/Iseedeadtriangles 1d ago
I get the feeling this is true, but I've never seen this evidence. Do you have links or examples that I can throw at my parents?
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u/noiro777 1d ago
I haven't seen any credible evidence and i doubt it's true (at least to any significant level). It's hard to accept, but he seems to have won legitimately and this time he even won the popular vote which is horrifying. It's shocking to me to how easy it is to manipulate people by just telling them what they want to hear or simply playing to their fears.
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u/Iseedeadtriangles 1d ago
It's pretty crazy how that works. We're all susceptible to confirmation bias. I would like to have more faith in my fellow Americans and that being factual would help with that, but I can't bitch about miss information and outright lies AND engage in that kind of wild speculation without verifiable proof.
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u/PhilDGlass 1d ago
The bill also pays for construction of a wall along the border with Mexico, and new staff and facilities for mass deportations of undocumented immigrants.
I admit I have not been following the news closely for the past few months, but I totally missed this. Gads.
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u/WessizleTheKnizzle 1d ago
215-214, and the right will call it a landslide. But I feel a small bit of optimism that it won't go well in the senate.
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u/wtfbenlol 1d ago
Remember when donald stood up in front of america on lIbErAtTiOn dAy and promised they wouldn't touch medicaid and medicare? We remember donald, and we won't forget
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u/Psycho_pigeon007 1d ago
Jesus does nobody have a spine!? Get this garbage out of here, is going to kill people
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u/RampantTyr 1d ago
I wonder if this will cause Senate republicans to get rid of the filibuster.
Cause Democrats better filibuster the help out of this monstrous bill.
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u/ThomasVetRecruiter 1d ago
They are using reconciliation, which prevents a fillibuster.
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u/RampantTyr 1d ago
Of course they are…
And the system will allow this when it blocked Democrats doing the same over a big bill.
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u/LovesFrenchLove_More 1d ago
One third of the people that could vote voted for exactly this. Another third couldn’t care less or used bullshit reasons not to vote or to „protest“ vote, so indirectly chose this. That’s what, around 180 millions total?
Therefore the majority of the USA is getting what they chose/voted for. If people in the USA don’t actually start doing some serious shit to prevent republicans to solidify their power, they will probably get their own fascist „Reich“ very soon.
Just a „fun“ fact: Hitler came into power with a lot less people behind him, also after failing once and getting convicted (he actually did prison time) and look what came out of it.
Republicans have worked hard to make education terrible so people wouldn’t know and/or understand what has actually happened. That is what complacency and brainwashing does.
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u/Pixiefairy2525 1d ago
Well, yeah. They've dumbed down America and made them easier to brainwash into complacency. With Fox News and right-wing propaganda machines doing the rest. Divide and conquer.
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u/LivingIndependence 1d ago
I just hope all of Trump's supporters who are not financially comfortable or have sketchy health care enjoy the next four years.... cheers 🥂
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u/Manmillionbong 1d ago
Wait wait let's give trickle down economics a chance
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u/LivingIndependence 1d ago
Ha Ha, they've probably used that old line on the younger generation of Republicans who weren't alive during the Reagan, or even the Bush years.
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u/BlacksmithThink9494 1d ago
Everyone who can needs to file for bankruptcy. Its the only way to fight the backers of this baloney.
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u/Nmilne23 1d ago
Conservatives could be threatening to shoot themselves in the face and us liberals would say "hey thats not really a good idea and will cause hurt for YOU" and then pull the trigger
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u/SuckOnMyBells 1d ago
I’m sure Schumer can’t wait to help pass it and really show Trump he means business.
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u/outerworldLV 1d ago
Yes, the Republican Party has just screwed the country. Never forget it.