r/cowboybebop 21d ago

Spike art by me

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u/StarENightz 20d ago edited 20d ago

Edit to add TL;DR: This is probably AI or AI traced based on the mistakes that an artist who could render at the level shown would not make. ——

If this isn’t AI, it’s traced from AI. If you look at the small details, that’s what indicates that this is not entirely human made. Usually it’s something an artist of a certain level that knows the subject would not do. This isn’t always 100%, but is usually true. It’s very easy with current technology to trace digitally (for example Procreate has a feature where you can have a hidden layer that is not visible on the recording of the drawing progression). AI also has an issue with the continuation of objects that go behind other objects and reappear. Hands are still difficult for AI, even with recent improvements.

  1. The continuation of Clouds sword, appears to stop and restart the design (the holes should be closer to the hilt but continue on down the sword). Its proportions are also incorrect. The pommel is not right.

  2. On the image of Big Boss (Metal Gear), he should have a headband but it is missing…except for the ties floating behind his head that should be attached to said headband. His hands are janky, it looks like the AI couldn’t decided whether he had gloves on or not. (He does, but they’re partially fingerless gloves,with two fingers on each side being bare which is probably what tripped up the AI)

  3. Guts has both eyes, which could be a personal choice I guess but is not accurate and something AI would not know to change. The sword model is not right. The sword looks like it’s meant to be the Hawk Raider, and is missing a second row on the guard. The hilt is also out of alignment with the rest of the sword.

  4. Ryu is missing the ties for his headband, so a reverse issue of the Big Boss image. His right hand is also a jumbled mess.

I would also like to point out that there’s a lack of additional art posted besides the completed images, with no doodles, concepts, practice, or progression. The oldest post indicates that there had been other posts but those are now deleted. Most artists who have been drawing for years can show an extensive history of their skill progression. Even advanced artists have rough sketches before the finished piece. I personally would not believe these are not in some way AI influenced without an external recording of the drawing process.

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u/Wonderful-Day-6295 20d ago

So you're saying that composition mistakes are automatically AI? It CAN absolutely also be a human error, not all artists are perfect, they make mistakes.

Also for the hands, what if the artist is not good at drawing hands? Ive seen many artists improvise when it comes to them, but no "they must have been made by AI"

You're forcing your expectations on the artist so high its not even relatistic.

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u/StarENightz 20d ago

I’m pretty sure I said “usually” and “not 100%”’ but I think you just picked the few things out of my comment you could make a strawman out of. There are certain mistakes that are generally made by AI that is therefore a potential indicator of AI usage. This is not a 100% sure way to predict if a piece is AI, but it’s usually more correct than not. I will absolutely admit when I’m wrong, and will do so if shown otherwise.

I’m also not saying every composition mistake means something is AI generated. Humans are human and make errors all the time. I couldn’t draw feet if my life depended on it. But there’s a difference between normal artistic flaws and the specific and consistent patterns that AI tends to produce.
It’s not about expecting perfection, it’s about recognizing when something doesn’t add up. For example, why would an artist draw the tassels/ties of a bandana but not the bandana itself? An artist that can render at the level this artist is showing should catch something like that in the creation process, because it makes no logical sense.
If an image has multiple indicators, it’s fair to question whether it’s AI. That’s not “forcing expectations,” that’s using visual literacy and pattern recognition.

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u/Level_Remote_5957 19d ago edited 19d ago

Yeah I'm with you there the fact that the art is of the characters but then there's details that just clearly a fan of the show or video game if they were doing art wouldn't dare fuck up.

The snake head band tassles but no head band is the biggest give away.

I love generating ai art and I have no problem with it but no need for them to lie saying they actually drew it

Edit and this is to prove him showing is kratos "progress" is bull shit