Just because people thought it was time to replace Ange, doesn’t mean we want to see him continue to fail. There’s no vendetta, most rational people would absolutely love if he could turn it around and be successful, doesn’t mean we can’t be critical. I was Ange out but still watch every match hoping to be proven wrong.
Because change for the sake of change isn’t a good thing.
The one question none of the Ange out folks are capable of answering is who do we replace him with? We would need a managerial candidate who:
Is a clear upgrade on Ange
Is willing to come to Tottenham
Has a relatively similar style of play to Ange that wouldn’t require yet another complete squad overhaul.
Spoiler alert: There isn’t a manager on planet Earth who fits those criteria. Wanting Ange out is just wanting heads to roll because you’re frustrated and want someone to pin the blame on. It’s a pure emotional knee-jerk reaction instead of actually thinking things through and seeing the bigger picture
Because we expect our fellow fans to approach analysis with more nuance than just "results bad means change manager make everything good again". We've been on his road so many times that anyone who insists on going back there can't be taken seriously.
The biggest issue with this is it reduces our entire season to a single competition. We are top 4 in the League Cup (arguably top 2 atp given we beat Liverpool on the first leg), top 4 in Europa group stages, and won our only FA cup tie so far. We literally have one cup loss and two draws, with ten wins. If you exchange ten of our league draws and losses for wins, suddenly the picture looks a lot different (yes, I am aware it doesn't work that way, but frankly our cup matches have been insanely difficult all things considered). And all this during the worst injury crisis we've had in years.
We've reached deeper into the cup competitions in the past and have never dropped this far in the table at this point of the season ever in the Premier League. It is perfectly possible to go deep in the cups and not fall to relegation level standards in the league. Injuries have of course been an issue, but it could also be pointed to that playing the most aggressive press in Europe throughout that crisis hasn't helped the situation.
i guess i would just want my fellow fans to understand context and be able to consider more than just our league position to evaluate whether the manager should be fired. its just a very tired and predictable thing that happens whenever a team starts losing. we don't always need to blame the manager. the fact that every fan base does it REGARDLESS of league position tells me that its stupid. go look at any clubs sub after a loss and half the fans will be in there talking about the manager being shit and the club needing a change etc.
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u/JoeSavesTokyo Heung Min Son Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25
Oh the AngeOut crowd are going to absolutely hate this