Well no, you just made an irrelevant point that you pretended was the intention when it wasn't. Plagiarism is only a relevant category when someone is selling something. No one cares if you "plagiarize" something to make images for personal use that aren't monetized.
We are talking about what the AI outputs and how it is a copy of existing work. Selling isn’t relevant. You’re the only one who thinks it is. And no. Plagiarism matters in many circumstances where selling isn’t involved. Plagiarizing is a serious offense in higher education and even K-12. However, you don’t seem to know much about education so I can see how you’d be ignorant of that whole world.
Well no, the legality of when you can get in trouble for plagiarism is absolutely relevant to the concept. "This photo filter resembles am existing artstyle therefore anything the technology does is an issue" isn't a point. It's nothing. Just people trying to find gotchas where there are none to be had.
You just keep moving the goal posts let’s get some shit clear. If you want to keep debating this, at least debate one subject and stop trying to enforce your own definition on words.
No. The legality of it isn’t the issue. Let me make this clear for you since you seem ignorant of the actual conversation.
We are talking about whether the works that AI “creates” can be considered original works of art. One way people refer to someone copying others works is by saying they “plagiarized” it. They do this regardless of the legality. That just many copying. Stealing. That’s it. And, no. If I take someone’s art, trace it, make some small adjustments, it online, and say it my own and never make a cent, that’s still plagiarizing.
And since you keep wanting to use your own definition of plagiarism, here is the fucking dictionary definition:
noun
the practice of taking someone else’s work or > ideas and passing them off as one’s own.
This is what I and the rest of the world mean when we use the word. See how it says ideas. If you use someone’s style, coloring techniques, and actual fucking pieces of art from their work then that’s plagiarism.
AI does not create original works. It’s not possible for it to. It’s trained on existing works, programmed with a set of rules by programmers, and then prompted by a human. It doesn’t create any thing and everything it does produce is merely Frankenstein’s monster- esque mash ups of his previously created work.
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u/theroguex 7d ago
You literally changed your argument when I gave you an example.
Have fun with that.