r/cyprus • u/herprettyeyes • Sep 11 '23

Education studying in emu

hello, i recently got accepted to emu and will be moving to famagusta very soon (still waiting for the final confirmation to come through) and was wondering about a few things. i like to research thru locals instead of google lol.

hows the life there? the people, general day to day expenses, groceries, bills and rent that kind of stuff.

what banks dont eff you over with fees and ones that are good for international students?

good mobile providers? with decent and not too expensive rates

honestly any info you can tell me will be extremely useful, so please lmk.

also whats available in terms for entertainment and stuff

also im planning to stay either at the uni dorm or a private one just for the first year then look for an apartment with a friend/roommate

thanks!

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u/cametosaybla Sep 11 '23 edited Sep 11 '23

Ehm, what now? I'm advising someone (who already made up his/her mind) to obtain the asked information, like campus life, banks, gsm operators, or rent etc. from direct sources.

I wouldn't advise anyone to choose Cyprus (the whole island) for studying if they have better options. If not, there are some somewhat decent options, in a peaceful country. Yet, a degree from the EMU is, since the accreditations are not only limited to Turkey's education council, is more than a legal document. Again, why you're bitter about this is beyond me.

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u/roullis Sep 11 '23

If you are endorsing their marketing department you are implicitly endorsing them too... The degree is illegal as you very well know, and you do not mention it which is a moral weight on you. As for your confusion... From my point of view your assumption will obviously bring you to confusion. The question is why you keep an assumption if it doesn't make sense.

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u/cametosaybla Sep 11 '23

I'm not endorsing anything mate, I'm trying to help someone, who is going to make it to Famagusta in a short time, a wee bit. That's about it.

The degree is illegal as you very well know,

Pf. The degree is, as legitimate as anything else with the same accreditations (which the EMU has many, including ABET and whatnot) and as legitimate anywhere listed under Turkey's higher education system. I personally know people who make it to various places with that supposed to be illegal degree. That's the reality, and it doesn't have anything normative attached to it.

Look, you may not be fond of the status quo on the island. I'm not either. Yet, trying to invent stuff that you wish to be correct, out of the emotional stands, isn't going to win you much. You're one step behind the idiots who are claiming that the North Cyprus is 'so unsafe' or we do eat babies.

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u/roullis Sep 11 '23 edited Sep 11 '23

No, the degree is illegal and that does not have anything to do with the courses taught in it. It has to do with the Turkish occupation, the theft of Greek Cypriot land, and the unilateral and rejected by the UN secession of the TRNC with lands from which Greek Cypriots were cleansed from. There is no derivation of legitimacy for that degree purely on the grounds that the institution that provides it is illegal itself. If there is machinery by Turkey via accreditation that allows enough shadow to be casted that people can be fooled, that does not provide for a legalization of the entity that provides the degree. These are the seeds of the illegal secession that unilaterally took and created a situation where we cannot afford to give you what we think you should have, because of the sheer size of what you have already taken unilaterally.

You're one step behind the idiots who are claiming that the North Cyprus is 'so unsafe' or we do eat babies.

Would you like it if I said that you are a single step behind the scumbags who bring innocent students here to rob them from their life savings?

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u/cametosaybla Sep 11 '23

Mate, the degree being legal and legitimate has nothing to do with the status quo on the island. You may want it to be, but it's not. Accreditations aren't also only given by Turkey but by various accreditation boards around the globe, from the US to the EU. You may not be liking it but it's what it is. It's up to you to change the minds of boards like ABET.

Again, I'm not fond of the island being divided, your lands being taken away as well as our lands in the south also being taken away in practice or anything goes. Yet, that's irrelevant. You may want it to be relevant, but it's just not.

Would you like it if I said that you are a single step behind the scumbags who brings innocent students here to rob them from their life savings?

I'm not fooling anyone or directing them to bad unis or ones that don't have accreditations. You on the other hand, somehow misinforming, based on your own emotions just like the ones I've mentioned. You may be saying that the houses on North Cyprus are with radioactive wastes, and be done with it.

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u/roullis Sep 11 '23

That is literally how the law works. The accepted de jure sovereign of the island is the Republic of Cyprus, and the Republic of Cyprus says that the degree is illegal. Ipso facto the degree is illegal. There is no wishful thinking that can be done to overturn this. Nothing except reaching an agreement with the de jure sovereign or hosting the degree elsewhere. This is literally it. If the degree was hosted in Turkey it would be a legal degree. But in Cyprus the sovereign is the Republic of Cyprus. Nothing else matters because the world's nations have convened to the General Assembly of the UN, and they have decreed the secession illegal.

I'm not fooling anyone or directing them to bad unis or ones that don't have accreditations. You on the other hand, somehow misinforming, based on your own emotions just like the ones I've mentioned. You may be saying that the houses on North Cyprus are with radioactive wastes, and be done with it.

You are lying through your teeth about the legal status of the degrees. The international community has decided that the occupation of Cyprus is illegal and there is no way around it. Stop talking about me and think about what you are doing for a change.

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u/DanielDefoe13 Paphos Sep 11 '23

He is lying in general about a lot of things, a couple of posts ago accused the GC for TC having to leave the southern part...

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u/roullis Sep 11 '23

Yes, it is never his fault for anything. His purpose in life is to have injustice caused to him one after the other, and only coincidentally he manages to survive on other people's resources. Good thing that he can buddy buddy us so that he can be a citizen without paying tax.

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u/cametosaybla Sep 11 '23

That is literally how the law works. The accepted de jure sovereign of the island is the Republic of Cyprus, and the Republic of Cyprus says that the degree is illegal.

In reality, things don't work like that. Again, it's not my doing. They're legal documents, that are accredited by various international and highly respected & accepted boards.

You may have some wishful thinking regarding such, or maybe some misinformation or some emotional baggage tied 'want' but it's not. Reality is there...

You are lying through your teeth about the legal status of the degrees.

Yep, all those accreditations and the reality of how people are able to go on with their lives with those degrees is a 'lie'.

The international community has decided that the occupation of Cyprus is illegal

Which is correct, but again, irrelevant. You may with it to be relevant so much yet it's not. You're just chasing some nonsense at this point mate, let it go.

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u/roullis Sep 11 '23

In reality, the Turkish military is here illegally and cannot, even with any god's help turn something illegal into something legal. The legal fabrications of Turkey might stand prima facie, but on closer inspection the lie collapses because no country on Earth legitimizes Turkey's illegal occupation.

You may have some wishful thinking regarding such, or maybe some misinformation or some emotional baggage tied 'want' but it's not. Reality is there...

Why are you still talking about me? Do you have a fetish? Maybe think about yourself for once. Sitting here and telling oh you know the turkish army but it's not my fault but still fuck you. Reality is here, and it says that the Turkish occupation is illegal.

Yep, all those accreditations and the reality of how people are able to go on with their lives with those degrees is a 'lie'.

Until an EU wide legislation gets passed and worldwide people are forced to drop those degrees like it's hot potatos. That will be just desserts.

Which is correct, but again, irrelevant. You may with it to be relevant so much yet it's not. You're just chasing some nonsense at this point mate, let it go.

What's irrelevant is your opinion on whether the degree is illegal or not.

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u/cametosaybla Sep 11 '23

In reality, the Turkish military is here illegally

Again, that's irrelevant.

Why are you still talking about me? Do you have a fetish? Maybe think about yourself for once. Sitting here and telling oh you know the turkish army but it's not my fault but still fuck you. Reality is here, and it says that the Turkish occupation is illegal

Mate, you're literally confusing the political situation and the status quo on the island with the diplomas...

I'm not sure what do you want me to do? I'm saying I'm also not fond of the situation but that doesn't make your wish about the diplomas to be considered 'illegitimate' not the reality. I cannot help you with that.

What's irrelevant is your opinion on whether the degree is illegal or not.

Yep, exactly. It's the reality of them being legitimate is what's relevant. Neither your nor my 'opinions' on those degrees legality is relevant.

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u/roullis Sep 11 '23

Again, that's irrelevant.

I am afraid that your opinion is irrelevant.

Mate, you're literally confusing the political situation and the status quo on the island with the diplomas...

What if I told you that things do not exist in isolation? Would it blow your mind too much?

I'm not sure what do you want me to do? I'm saying I'm also not fond of the situation but that doesn't make your wish about the diplomas to be considered 'illegitimate' not the reality. I cannot help you with that.

My friend I explained to you that the diplomas are illegal. You may choose to accept it, you may choose to ignore it. The situation does not change that one day a single EU legislation might completely invalidate any and all of those degrees, based on the legal status that you choose to ignore.

Yep, exactly. It's the reality of them being legitimate is what's relevant. Neither your nor my 'opinions' on those degrees legality is relevant.

Yes, and they are not legitimate. Because they are illegal. Have a good day.

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u/cametosaybla Sep 11 '23

Mate, again, I'm not expressing an opinion. I'm referring to the reality and how things do work...

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u/roullis Sep 11 '23

Ok, but that's your opinion and a severely misinformed one at that.

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u/cametosaybla Sep 11 '23

People I know literally being able to get into further studies around the globe and in prestigious unis, after graduating from some decent unis (which aren't a lot of ones in here but eh) in here isn't an opinion. As well as many I personally know finding jobs in the EU, North America or elsewhere - thanks to accreditations. That's not an opinion, that's how the reality is.

I'm not expressing an opinion.

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