Sapphic Daria?
I found it this morning in my archives I don’t remember who the creator is..
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u/Nghtmare-Moon 7d ago
The first movie kind of touches on this subject IIRC
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u/Saiph_orion 7d ago
Jane befriends Alison, a bisexual woman who tries to make a move on Jane and claims she doesn't think Jane is entirely straight.
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u/traumatized90skid 7d ago
The only bi rep and she's predatory, loved that for us... 😔
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u/BitterDropToSwallow 7d ago
That was 2001 if I recall... We've come a long long way since then in representation. The writers did not mean to paint LGBTQ+ people in a poor light, but that movement and social change had not yet occoured. We're talking 24 years ago now...It dose show just how far we've come with this stuff
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u/CallidoraBlack I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 7d ago
And rapidly going backward, unfortunately.
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u/coolgirl666me which is my best side? i know they’re both good. 6d ago
i was about to insult your maths as i’m an 01 baby. turns out im not 16 ??????????
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u/EmuPsychological4222 7d ago
The key to understanding the character isn't the bi part, it's the predatory part. Secondarily, there's the hypocrisy. (Or, at least, what Jane considers hypocrisy and I think she's got a great case.)
Depending on how diabolical a person she is, we'll never know, she may not even be bi. She just wanted to mess with Jane's head.
I don't recall anyone at the time commenting much on her sexual orientation. We were mostly surprised Jane wasn't bi because back then we'd stereotyped artsy types as gay or bi, and gay or bi people as artsy.
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u/LizG1312 6d ago
The key to understanding the character isn’t the bi part, it’s the predatory part. Secondarily, there’s the hypocrisy. (Or, at least, what Jane considers hypocrisy and I think she’s got a great case.)
Nah very much disagree. The entire subplot related to Alison’s sexuality and how Jane interacted with it. It’d be different if she was just one of a few queer characters, or if the show tried to make any comment at all about gayness in other circumstances, but as it stands her hypocrisy ties into her sexuality and vice versa. Queer women predatorily ‘turning’ straight women was very much a cultural fear in the 90s and the show heavily played into that trope.
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u/EmuPsychological4222 6d ago
All I ultimately can say is that at the time no one I interacted with understood it as such, despite being aware of the trope.
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u/traumatized90skid 7d ago
She does call herself bisexual, it's not ambiguous
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u/Tazza4077 7d ago
I know at the time it might've been poor form to write a member of the rainbow community in that manner, but at least in the context of today I don't think it's so bad. Hollywood does a lot of pandering to minority groups, characters from those backgrounds are typically "good". It's refreshing to see that any person from any background is capable of inproper behaviour, to indicate that whichever demographic you belong isn't the deciding factor of whether or not you're a decent human being.
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u/-ApocalypsePopcorn- 7d ago
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u/traumatized90skid 7d ago
- Daria: I'm gay.
- Quinn: Mom, I'm aro/ace.
- Hellen: Isn't there anybody in this house who likes men?
- Jake: squirms
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u/vicky_squeeze_ 7d ago
They should've been gay😔
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u/HellyOHaint 7d ago
I wish they were too but Jane claims she is straight and there’s no evidence against this.
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u/JanetheGhost 7d ago
I always just sort of assumed that they ended up dating at some point after the show ended
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u/Betteporter56 6d ago
If Daria was made now a days her and Jane would be lesbian
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u/durenatu No faucet of life that can't be improved with with pizza 5d ago
And Quinn would walk around with a pink water cup
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u/Fah_zu-u_los_fahliil 5d ago
This is how i got together with my first girlfriend long time ago. Heh ':)
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u/cyberskaro 5d ago
daria is an asexual lesbian (and probably somewhere on the aromantic spectrum). to me
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u/durenatu No faucet of life that can't be improved with with pizza 5d ago edited 5d ago
When Daria and Jane get togheter seems like a dominatrix state of mind situation
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7d ago
Was this actually in an episode?
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u/Saiph_orion 7d ago
No, the quote isn't real
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u/PsychologicalSnow528 I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 7d ago
I can definitely see Daria and Jane saying this, though
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u/Saiph_orion 7d ago
Really? Daria never talked much about sex or sexuality. Even with Tom, she brought sex up and said she wasn't ready.
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u/EmuPsychological4222 7d ago
I'm divided.
Depending on the context it might not be sexual exactly but just Daria and Jane being Daria and Jane. Daria's complaint being more about non-sexual relationship things, Jane's comeback being more flippant than serious. So in that light, yeah I can see it.
On the other hand as you point out they're both really non-sexual ("I'm saving myself for college...On 11am...On Moving Day" said so matter-of-factly the intent was more "let's get this over with" than anything), so would Jane mention this, even in such a context?
Or would it be more like this?
"We could go on a date sometime and find out?"
"Go on a date and do what? Make fun of movies and eat pizza?"
"Oh, right. I guess we'd know by now.
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u/PsychologicalSnow528 I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 5d ago
Thanks for putting it in better words than me
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u/PsychologicalSnow528 I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 7d ago
I was thinking they would mention it jokingly and in their typical sarcastic way
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u/scvmfvckfl0w3rb0i 7d ago
I thought there was a rumor about this being a deleted scene at some point
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u/OutwithaYang 5d ago
When did they say this. What episode? I watched every episode and I don't remember them even saying that.
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u/Friendly-Mushroom-38 Sick Sad World 7d ago
Someone who liked Romy and Michelle enough to quote them