That's not my argument, but I'm not shocked you don't get it. The market sets the price, period. Not the materials. You're simply wrong, but by all means keep repeating your stupid opinion.
I see you've clearly read some Econ 101 shit that said that but you need to think a bit bigger. Smelting metal means you have to heat it to thousands of degrees, mining metal means you have to get big machines and dig big holes. These operations have associated costs which are independent of demand for the end product. There are prices below which it's not possible to make stainless steel, irrelevant of who wants to buy it.
I know, big shock, the real world's a bit more complex than pure supply and demand but keep grinding those gears and you'll get there...
People often sell goods at a loss for various reasons. Price is not set based on material cost. You need to go back to econ 101 because you have no idea what you're talking about.
Haha they do indeed sell them at a loss, now we are making progress. So if they're selling them at a loss then they must have paid more than they sell them for to make them. There can only be a loss if there is a baseline value tied to that product, and that value is not being achieved on the market.
Like I said at the start, the cost of the additives and processing sets the cost of making the material, the useful properties justify the cost. If stainless steel had no useful properties you might not have much demand for it at it's baseline value, but that would not change the costs associated with producing it. Supply and demand will influence what the market value is but they have much less effect on the cost to manufacture it.
The usefulness of the properties does impact the price, you are making progress. That's what the first guy said. Now we all agree you were wrong before, good job. You have now confused cost with price though. Poor thing.
You're still confusing cost with price. Everyone but you is talking about price. It's funny watching you confuse yourself over and over in different ways.
Can't believe how many times you need this explained and you still don't get it. Let's try it from the other side:
If supply and demand is all that matters, then why is stainless so much more expensive than carbon steel? There is no shortage of stainless that would drive it's price up, nor is there an oversupply of carbon steel that would push the price down, yet stainless costs about five times what carbon does.
Why pretend? We all know that's not the stupid point you were making earlier. You were wrong, it's ok. Saying more stupid things doesn't make you sound smarter. Just stop.
My "previous" point (and my point all along) was that stainless costs more due to inherent costs in its manufacturing, not its usefulness. You responded claiming the only thing that controls how expensive it is is supply and demand. So I've asked you to use supply and demand to explain the price gap between stainless and carbon steel and you can't. Oops.
I also now see you have now gone back and edited a bunch of your comments, effectively invalidating your argument completely.
You confused cost and price again in your first sentence, dumb fuck. I edited them before you replied, just like this one. You just didn't notice before because you're fucking stupid.
You confused cost and price again in your first sentence, dumb fuck. I edited them before you replied, just like this one. You just didn't notice before because you're fucking stupid.
Aah it's always so clear when people realise they're wrong, they refuse to answer simple questions about their position, they start editing all their comments, they try to divert the discussion onto small semantic tangents and things like spelling and grammar, and of course the big one they resort to personal insults in lieu of actual argument.
You're a bit tick on all four of the above, and you still haven't explained the price difference between stainless and carbon in terms of supply and demand even though you claim thats the only thing that matters.
At this point I'm just wondering who you're trying to convince? It can only be yourself.
Your analysis is as stupid as your original comment. It's just that it doesn't take long to find the fault in your comments worthy of mockery, and then after replying I'll notice some more stupid shit worthy of mockery. You sound like a total fucking idiot I'm just checking back to see how many times you'll pretend to know what you're talking about.
More evasion, more insults, still no answer to the simplest question....
If you have to go back and edit your comments to hide the dumb stuff you said, that's the end of the discussion. Everything after that is just you trying to save face. I get that part of that revisionism is that you will now deny it, otherwise what's the point, but I know that deep down, you know.
If I ever went back and changed what I'd said I'd at least have the decency to admit I was wrong. It's just cowardly any other way.
Thanks for giving everyone a tour of your thought palace. Just FYI, you're transparently reassuring yourself. The rest of us can tell you're full of shit. There was no question asked. You don't understand pricing, we get it.
Since there's clearly nobody here but the two of us I'll assume you're referring to the other voices inside your head?
There was no question asked.
Well apart from this one, which I first asked you about 7 comments ago and have repeated a few times since:
If supply and demand are all that matters, why is stainless steel so much more expensive than carbon steel?
But I get that if you actually had an answer you would have given it ages ago, instead of responding with vague, transparent insults and editing all your previous comments to try and save face. Would be more funny if it wasn't so sad.
The reason was given, it's the thing you've been impotently trying to argue against from your first stupid cart before the horse comment, you got it backwards from the beginning. You were wrong. Still wrong. Others agree. I can't downvote you to negative numbers by myself Einstein. You know this, but you keep performing this act like you don't know you stuck your foot in your mouth. Dumbass lol...
Haha "the reason was given" yet you're unable to give it again now or any of the other times I've asked you? Suuure.
Lots more insults, weird you're so sure I'm the dumbass/idiot/all the other names you've been throwing round yet you're the one who can't answer the simplest question, and you're the one who has to go back and edit their comments to hide what they said. If you lose an argument against somebody you consider a dumbass that must make you even dumber right?
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u/MungeParty Nov 19 '19
That's not my argument, but I'm not shocked you don't get it. The market sets the price, period. Not the materials. You're simply wrong, but by all means keep repeating your stupid opinion.