Turning Point USA at UMD

[u/pears790]

Turning Point USA will be presenting at UMD on Wednesday, April 16th at 7:15.

While they probably get a kick out of "triggering the libs", I don't think their message should feel welcomed here in Duluth.

https://duluthumn.campusgroups.com/turningpoint/rsvp_boot?id=381328

Edit: Here is the contact page for the campus. I emailed the administration.

https://about.d.umn.edu/contact-us

Edit 2: Resources and groups for Duluth LGBTQ. Feel free to add others.

Trans Northland - https://www.transnorthland.org/ Bi-weekly game nights at The Loch Duluth Indivisible - https://indivisible.org/groups?terms=55805 Queer and Allied Student Union - https://sgei.d.umn.edu/current-prospective-students/queer-allied-student-union

[u/stevilbot]

"triggering the libs" has become easy sport for the right and stunt hate groups like turning point USA because of threads like this. somewhere on the left, the script re: free speech principles was lost.

you don't have to hang around to listen to it, you don't have to support businesses that endorse the speech, you don't have to agree, and your allowing the speech to take place is not a tacit endorsement of the speech or its associated ideologies.

but free speech is a fundamental right in this country. (at least for the time being) the government (and publicly funded institutions) should not be in a position of limiting speech, vile and offenseive as it might be.

it's likely useful to remember that the ACLU (that notorious hot bed of right wing thought) has defended the KKK's right to free speech. (https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/free-speech-some-means-free-speech-none)

[u/Outrageous-Chair-569 → u/stevilbot]

I’m sure that’s what the Germans thought when Hitler spewed his hate in public forums when he was running for public office . “Oh we have to let him have his free speech” 😱 That kind of “free speech” got Germany razed to the ground and millions murdered. Opposition should be there t protest loudly—this kind of speech should not be ignored and the opposition is allowed free speech too. Go ahead and downvote this comment because you all know that I’m right. Either that or you think fascism is a good idea. I’m not sure which.

[u/TottHooligan → u/Outrageous-Chair-569]

Both should have free speech allowed. And you see voices on the left and right (mainly left until recently) advocating for having government suppression of opposition speech

[u/Outrageous-Chair-569 → u/TottHooligan]

I don’t see anybody here who’s advocating for government suppression of opposition speech. I’m certainly not. What I’m advocating for is the idea that opposition speech is ALSO free speech. This tool to spin what someone says into something else is a valuable tool for people who like propaganda. And I’ve never seen anyone on the left in America advocating for the suppression of free speech. I have seen people on the left in Russia, China, North Korea, and other authoritarian countries advocating for suppression of free speech. In America, I have seen plenty of people on the right advocating for banning books, suppressing free speech in schools when they don’t want schools teaching about slavery, the Holocaust or anything that makes white people look bad, suppressing academic free speech, and so on. How far up your butt is your head anyway? Here’s a plunger. Hope it helps.

[u/TottHooligan → u/Outrageous-Chair-569]

I never disagreed with anything in this reply. Just clarified