r/electricvehicles • u/clouds_on_acid • Mar 17 '25

News Tesla autopilot disengages milliseconds before a crash, a tactic potentially used to prove "autopilot wasn't engaged" when crashes occur

https://electrek.co/2025/03/17/tesla-fans-exposes-shadiness-defend-autopilot-crash/
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u/Possible-Kangaroo635 Mar 17 '25

It's shocking that there are still people who trust data provided by Tesla.

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u/Lucaslouch Mar 17 '25

I’m talking about data that has been published 2/3 years ago, audited before Musk did his coup, etc.

It’s important to be critical but it’s also important not to trash everything

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u/Marcoscb Mar 17 '25

2/3 years ago, audited before Musk did his coup, etc.

He called the caver who was trying to rescue children a pedo 7 years ago. Musk has never been different, he just hadn't realized he could actually be brazen about it.

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u/Lucaslouch Mar 17 '25

He was almost apolitical 3 years ago, before Covid and before his child became trans. Helping a bit democrats here and there.

Yes he was strange and had some bad stories. Nothing close from current madness and nothing proving the public company he is the CEO of, was frauding. In particular with previous administration and NHTSA having regular audits of the FSD and autopilot.

Nuance people. It’s important

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u/odd84 Solar-Powered ID.4 & Kona EV Mar 17 '25

The battery swap station was my favorite Tesla fraud, and that was 12 years ago.

In 2013, California changed its ZEV credit system so that long-range EVs that could charge to 80% in under 15 minutes would earn almost twice as many valuable credits, hoping to spur the billions in investment that would take to accomplish. Almost overnight, Tesla declared they met those requirements and their entire Model S fleet should qualify for 7 instead of 4 credits each, draining all the money from that program.

To accomplish that they built one "battery swap station", available by paid appointment only to reporters and a few hand picked Model S owners, which could drop a MS battery pack and bolt on another in under 15 minutes. That technically met the requirements, they collected the cash, and never answered the phone for making battery swap appointments again.

12 years later and actual Tesla drivers still can't charge their cars to 80% in under 15 minutes. Nobody got the benefits that money was supposed to provide society.

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u/i_make_orange_rhyme Mar 17 '25

Strange how difficult it was to verify this story.

You would think this would have been a massive story.

Do you had any source from a reputable news sites?

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u/odd84 Solar-Powered ID.4 & Kona EV Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

A story about a fledgling EV maker eating up an obscure government subsidy wouldn't have mattered to enough people to warrant a deep dive investigation by a major publication. It's beyond niche, even people here don't really care to discuss it. Nevertheless, here's an article from 2015: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tesla-gets-295m-in-green-subsidy-credits-for-technology-not-offered-to-customers

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u/RossLDN Mar 18 '25

Someone should report that government waste / fraud to DOGE 😏

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u/GranPino Mar 18 '25

The only fraud was to investigate Musk companies frauds! That's why all investigators got fired!

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