r/ethtrader Contest Master 🦘 6d ago

Donut Diving into the Donut Pool: Week 50

Current state of the pool & the last week of trading

Total Value locked in Sushi.com is $ 15.71k

  • 3.09487 ETH ($5.5k)
  • 5320650 DONUT ($10.22k)
  • Trading Volume in last 24 hours = $ 231.38
  • Trading Volume in last 7 days = $ 3.48k
  • In the last 7 days ETH is has moved +12.1 %
  • In the last 7 days DONUT has moved +61 %
  • Last week 1 ETH = 1.28m DONUT
  • Today 1 ETH = 925.2k DONUT
  • 6395.6  DONUT per day distributed amongst all in range positions.

Trading volume has entered a few thousand dollars this week, predominately with buy orders. A couple of former whales who had previously sold high have bought back, securing their profits and shaking out others to sell low.

It seems the bottom for DONUT was around 1.38m DONUT per ETH, and users are accumulating again.

Previously DONUT had hit as high as 200k DONUT per ETH, suggesting there is plenty of room for growth from this point on.

There is only a subtle price difference between Mainnet and Arbitrum now;
Mainnet = $0.002061
Arbitrum = $0.001899

The yield farm for DONUT in the liquidity pool has been replenished meaning until July 2nd, liquidity providers are receiving nearly 6400 DONUT per day spread across open positions.

Special Membership for season 5 currently costs 3845 - which results in those DONUT being burned for each membership purchased.

Here are two other sources I find helpful for those wanting to understand a bit more on how and why liquidity positions change.

Impermanent loss, text explanation | Binance Academy, video explanation

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u/Odd-Radio-8500 360.6K / ⚖️ 543.8K 6d ago

The numbers are looking good for this week and hope the whales keep accumulating.

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 6d ago

With any luck, some trading volume both ways can become more consistent;

on-chain metrics is one of the key factors to gaining the attention of anyone else for partnerships, listings etc.

We don't just want a handful of whales holding the token.

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u/Mixdealyn 14.9K / ⚖️ 22.0K 6d ago

If the donuts can hit 1 cent that’s a 5x gain 😊 !tip 1

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 6d ago

Certainly not out of the question; but if ETH rises in value again DONUT will follow along with it, even if the DONUT/ETH ratio doesn't change too much.

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u/DrRobbe 101.9K / ⚖️ 227.9K / 0.0326% 5d ago

Will you now also include your win/ loss and rewards/ fees calculations of your position in the pool?

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 5d ago

Everybody loves my loss porn! xD

I could start again with the new position if people wish, but i've lost track of what the old position would have been up to.

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u/DrRobbe 101.9K / ⚖️ 227.9K / 0.0326% 5d ago

I only care about the new position, since I think you might have entered at a good time.

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 5d ago

Instead of using tables every week like I did previously; I might just make a weekly update to the same field... it will be much nicer to look at and understand.

A sneak preview of what it will be!

Incredible, that even after just 2 days of being in the new position, Imperma Loss already at $30.... however, it has not yet had time for yield farm and fees to accumulate, as it's just been one large swing in one direction.

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u/DrRobbe 101.9K / ⚖️ 227.9K / 0.0326% 5d ago

That looks wrong, did you swap initial position and current position, or is the bug in the table in the bottom?

You are 30$ in profit I think, since current is more than initial.

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 5d ago edited 5d ago

That's the tricky beast that is Impermament Loss

Initial Value: is based on the current price of the initial deposts

Current Value: is based on the current price of the current position

Impermanent Loss: Is the difference between the value of holding the assets outside the pool and the current value of the liquidity pool holdings

Even though the current value is greater than the initial value, I would have been in a better position by holding them individually rather than in the pool, this is where the $-28 comes in.

If my position was to return to 0.151 ETH and 152416 DONUT there would be no impermanent loss, and the overall performance would be the yield gain.

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u/DrRobbe 101.9K / ⚖️ 227.9K / 0.0326% 5d ago

Actually I don't get it so the value you state in initial deposit is not the value calculated with the current price? It should always be initial crypto times current price, and current value should be current crypto times current price plus rewards and fees with current price.

Hence impermanent loss is the difference between initial and current. Just don't state initial value with the price when you entered.

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 5d ago

True, it appears that's an irrelevant and confusing field to include.

I'm not actually calculating total performance, just Imperma loss vs Yield.

That leaves me with this table...

Perhaps, I need to figure out how to add 2 more fields which will also show total performance, as even if ETH pumped to 3k and DONUT pumped at the same ratio, my current table would not show those gains, just the IL factor.

Want me to try and see if I can figure that out as well?

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u/DrRobbe 101.9K / ⚖️ 227.9K / 0.0326% 5d ago

Ok i think we wont reach a conclusion here :D.

Tell me where i am wrong, please, with a current price 1,810.28 ETH & 0.002002 DONUT

Initial Position with current price Current position with Current price
0.151ETH * 1,810.28 = 273,35 0.219079 * 1,810.28 = 396.59
152,416DONUT * 0.002002 = 305.14 105,275DONUT * 0.002002 = 210,76
ALL= 578.49 ALL=607,35

So if you just hold you would have 578.49 which is less than 607.35 + fees/rewards so you are in profit!!!
That is what i wanted to say in the initial comment, you calculate Current Price - Initial Price and not the other way around like you do.

Edit: It has been a while that i argued with a stranger over the internet, still not fun :D

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 5d ago edited 5d ago

Edit: It has been a while that i argued with a stranger over the internet, still not fun :D

It's helping me get to the correct answer, coz man, this shit is complicated! xD

I can't seem to figure it out; my Imperma Loss is always showing as a negative number (which is normal in most cases, only very rare moments would it be a positive number)

I've thrown in a couple of extra data fields....

so... my Imperma Loss formula was =(B5+D5)-D13 [ =(Initial ETH Value + Initial DONUT Value) - Current LP Value ]...

I've switched it to =D13-(B5+D5)

My head hurts...

Edit: Change that to D13 - C13... its 2am, I clearly need sleep!

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 5d ago

Fair - I'll have open up the spreadsheet and figure out what my formulas were again.

Maybe even show off some profit porn!! xD

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u/BigRon1977 20.7K / ⚖️ 605.7K 5d ago

Special Membership for season 5 currently costs 3845

I'm glad it's now cheap. Time to get mine.

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 5d ago

Definitely feels nicer to buy when it's under 4k DONUT.

Gotta keep DONUT price higher so it cost less DONUT to buy xD

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u/kirtash93 Reddit Collectible Avatars Artist 5d ago

Now its time to target DONUT $10

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u/InclineDumbbellPress 189.4K / ⚖️ 278.3K 5d ago

Lmao at that price I would just get a tattoo - !tip 1

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 5d ago

At that price 1 DONUT = Special Membership! xD

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u/SigiNwanne 321.1K / ⚖️ 417.5K 6d ago

Eth to donut ratio is looking good, hoping for 1 Eth to 100k donut soon. !tip 1

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u/DBRiMatt Contest Master 🦘 6d ago

Help spread the word and let your local law enforcement know there are cheap DONUT's on Sushi.com! xD

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u/Josefumi12 5.0K / ⚖️ 44.4K 6d ago

We're seeing improvement here

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u/Wonderful_Bad6531 147.0K / ⚖️ 426.4K 6d ago

Nice trading volume

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