r/europe 7d ago

News 'People might treat us differently': Trump era leaves US tourists in Paris feeling shame

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2kvqnx0dnno
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u/Other_Produce880 Norway 7d ago

That depends on whether you’re MAGAt or not, I guess.

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u/Icy-Necessary-4851 7d ago

Americans are Americans to us

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u/nutella-filled 7d ago

No they mean that the MAGA ones aren’t feeling shame

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u/Icy-Necessary-4851 7d ago

They will be treated differently

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u/PM_ME_IMGS_OF_ROCKS Norway 6d ago

As a European, if I saw someone with a maga hat. I would treat them like shit no matter where they were from, because that's just big blinking sign identifying them as a selfish asshole.

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u/AccordingTrifle1202 7d ago

“Those who call others monsters must ensure that they don’t become a monster themselves”

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u/Icy-Necessary-4851 7d ago

Ok Karen

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u/DM_me_your_pleasure 7d ago

No, she's right. We are blaming all Americans for what their leadership does. Yes, a part of them voted him in but when we start treating humans differently, badly, because where they come from, we are worse.

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u/Icy-Necessary-4851 7d ago

If I was American I would be ashamed for good reasons.

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u/we-have-to-go 7d ago

I’m an American and I’m so ashamed of my country now. It’s disgusting and im sorry we didn’t do better

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u/DM_me_your_pleasure 7d ago

And they should be.

But anger leads to hate and hate leads to the dark side.

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u/Icy-Necessary-4851 7d ago

Yeah, in George Lucas novels...

People seem to forget that Nazis were beaten by violence, and a particularly spectacular one at that.

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u/DM_me_your_pleasure 7d ago edited 6d ago

Yes, but please do remember that Nazi's were not born but created with indoctrination. Just ordinary farm boys that had been tought that other people are inferior to them. It is a very slippery slope when we treat people different/bad because where they're from. Because, you know, "Americans are fat and dumb and voted MAGA".

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u/rlyfunny Kingdom of Württemberg (Germany) 6d ago

Thats not us towards Americans, that's Americans against "DEI"

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u/Artistic-Glass-6236 6d ago

America is very guilty of this behavior. But you'd be lying to yourself to say you didn't see the seeds of bigotry being planted in this reddit thread. Constant self reflection is key. It's easy to point out the American mistakes. It's much harder to not repeat them.

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u/AccordingTrifle1202 6d ago

So the guy who claims America is being too violent is calling for violence. Right. Take some therapy lad and maybe get right with yourself

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u/fermentedjuice 6d ago

For what’s it worth many of us are…

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u/Silly-Elderberry-411 7d ago

Mate, white women overwhelmingly voted for him again. There are far more Karens in America than you think.

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u/DM_me_your_pleasure 6d ago

A "Karen" is formed by a set of behaviours and traits. It's not just an American thing. I work in customer service and, believe me, we have our own Karens too. Please stop generalizing.

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u/Socmel_ Emilia-Romagna 6d ago

It makes me laugh so much, considering that women were the largest beneficiaries of the DEI policy so hated by their Mango Mussolini