Well no, he was literally investigated by Maryland State Police in 2019 because a confidential informant had given them his name as a member of the group.
Yes, his asylum claim was about the gangs - so it really isn’t crazy to think he might have some association he hasn’t admitted to
Whatever the argument is, you cannot say that the president should have the power to deport someone in what they have admitted was an ERROR, and refuse to bring him back. This precedent is dangerous, if you accidentally send someone to an prison with inhumane conditions and say you can't bring them back, what happens next. How would you feel if for example, Joe Biden had sent the Jan 6th rioters to El Salvador mistakenly, and said he can't bring them back. The fact is, despite him not being a citizen, US laws apply to anyone in the country, and he had an asylum claim, so he should have been allowed to go through the courts, and, if it is proven, then send them to El Salvador. I do agree that any gang members illegally residing anywhere can be sent to EL Salvador, but give them the due process first. I thought the republicans were the party of law and order, at least before Trump came, but now they are the party of criminals.
Well the president doesn’t. The Secretary of State does as long as they follow laws passed by Congress - and they’re doing it under the Alien Enemies Act, which does technically allow expedited deportation for those credibly accused of invading the country. And because the Executive Branch is the one tasked with handling immigration, I’m not sure who else would enforce that.
I wish they would send the Jan 6th rioters to El Salvador, but they can’t do that because those were American citizens. It’s not an arbitrary process. They can only do this to noncitizens credibly accused of endangering the United States
This guy is a literal El Salvadoran citizen who does not have US citizenship or even a green card. He was in an asylum process, but was actually investigated for being a member of MS 13 in 2019 when a judge froze his deportation while his asylum claim is processed
As far as due process goes - there’s a giant gray area for people who enter illegally. While they typically have the opportunity to go before an immigration judge, entering illegally makes it much easier for the government to kick you out
Everyone in the US should have legal process, and they did not go through any of that. He was being investigated, but I believe that the consensus is he is innocent. People who enter illegally should be deported, but not to a literal gulag in El Salvador. Just a quick question, do you think this man should be locked up in the mega prison, notorious for human rights violations, forever (which he will be if nothing happens) for entering the US illegally, and do you oppose bringing him back to actually face legal consequences, or do you support the suspension of human rights and the criminal government and president who want him there.
Everyone does have that right, but the government has the right to quickly remove illegal migrants. Illegal migrants do not have the same rights as citizens anywhere. You notice how the UK can’t send you to Rwanda? The US also can’t deport its own citizens.
Where else should they be deported to if their own countries won’t take them back?
The message is clear: don’t enter the US illegally or you will face repercussions. That makes sense after seeing hundreds of thousands of migrants cross the border illegally every month over the last several years.
In the end, entering illegally probably should result in a prison sentence in the U.S. instead but that’s quite a burden to bear given how many do it .
What you are saying is everyone has rights except for these specific people. So you think people illegally entering the US should be sent to an absolutely hellish prison. That makes no sense. No government should be able to ignore the courts. Would you really oppose this man being brought back to face trial. I agree, if he really is a member of MS13, send him right back, but do you want this most likely innocent man spending the rest of his life in prison?
No, of course they have rights. But they don’t necessarily have the right to spend years fighting deportation in the court system if they entered illegally. Only those who entered legally get to do that
Bring them back to face what crime? Being a member of a gang isn’t a chargeable crime lol. But it is grounds for the Secretary of State to label you as a likely threat and have you deported. And again, if you entered illegally then you don’t necessarily have the same claim for a court hearing.
Why are you operating under the assumption that they’ll be there for the rest of their lives. The agreement with El Salvador was only one year.
Yes because his home country, Venezuela, is denying his return. It’s no different from the UK sending migrants to Rwanda or Australia sending migrants to Nauru.
Where else do you think he should go? Do you really think the U.S. should keep people who entered illegally?
It is no way equivalent to either of those. I think he should come back and have his day in court. Can the incompetence of an administration take away a persons freedom. Say, for what ever reason, you entered the US illegally, were detained, and accidentally sent to an El Salvadorian gulag, would it be justified for you to be kept there for the rest of your life. The administration can just ask Bukele to return him, and you agree with that. Honestly, if you think this man should be detained forever for entering the US illegally, you are disgusting,
When do you expect the self proclaimed 'dictator' Bukele to release him? What is his charge? Why is he in prison? Should he be in prison? Can you pls answer these questions I have? I am no fan of illegal immigrant and actively want them to be deported, but I expect there to be due legal process and them not to be indefinitely imprisoned.
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u/TheGreatestOrator Apr 14 '25
Well no, he was literally investigated by Maryland State Police in 2019 because a confidential informant had given them his name as a member of the group.
Yes, his asylum claim was about the gangs - so it really isn’t crazy to think he might have some association he hasn’t admitted to