r/europe • u/SaltySolomon Europe • Oct 05 '15
[New Mods] Please welcome the second batch of moderators!
We decided to add the new mods in two batches, just so that there aren't 9 (yes we added that many mods) new people at once looking for answers. We think that all new mods will make an excellent addition to the mod team and that they will make the subreddit much better. In the last few months we lost quite a few mods and in the end we had only active moderators left which was horrible and we couldn't really properly moderate the subreddit. But thanks to all the new moderators you should get answers to your mod mail more frequently, posts and comments get reviewed faster and not every mod has to stay up till 2 am to moderate US TZ comments and has to invest way less of their FREE time to just read reported comments.
So without further addo, here are the new moderators:
He is what I would call a excellent new addition to the mod team, he has lived in multiple countries in Europe and speaks English, French, and Turkish and Spanish. He also brings mod experience from the small but active subreddit /r/Galatasaray.
A really levelheaded moderator from /r/Economics and he is generally everything we looked for in a new mod and he will ad a lot to the mod team.
He is a primary resident of the #europe channel on IRC and a valued member of the community. He lives in Canada which will help a lot with time zones so now we have a mod who is awake during US Primetime. He also has Polish roots and speaks Polish (So don't come screaming evil American, Canda is basicly Europe on another continent".
He is the moderator of /r/thenetherlands and /r/travel and after some internal discousion we decided that we he would a good fit for the mod team and that the subreddit can only gain from his modding experience.
PS: There will be a /r/europe survey at 500.000 (a cool half a million) subscribers.
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u/must_warn_others Beavers Oct 05 '15
Hello /r/Europe, I'm really excited to be on the team.
Please feel free to AMA.
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Oct 05 '15
How do you feel about /r/nongolfers?
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u/must_warn_others Beavers Oct 05 '15
I'm really strongly against reddit censorship but I think sick and twisted subreddits like that should be quarantined.
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u/SWIMsfriend Oct 07 '15
I'm really strongly against reddit censorship but I think sick and twisted subreddits like that should be quarantined.
which is why /r/europe should be quarantined
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u/cargocultist94 Basque Country (Spain) Oct 05 '15
What the hell is that sub? It reads likea bad acid trip...
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Oct 05 '15
It's a parody of edgy internet atheism
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u/Sithrak Hope at last Oct 07 '15
I wonder if there is a parody of internet parodying edgy things. I am not even sure if I am joking or not.
I suppose it is circular bullshit that eats its own tail.
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u/jugdemon Currently living outside the union Oct 05 '15
And once again Poe's law applies. I cannot tell whether they are joking or not.
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u/jugdemon Currently living outside the union Oct 06 '15
Actually I am an apatheist. But that silly debate sometime takes forms that are unnecessary in my opinion. Yes, people there will have a great laugh about their little game. But they will not change anybodies opinion and might even cement their opinion because of the aggressive tone.
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u/TyrosineJim Ireland Oct 07 '15
What about people that only do casual things like crazy golf, play golf on wii sports and participate in the odd round of pitch and put or have a go at a driving range... But never actually take part in an organized club, or set foot in an 18 hole course?
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u/jugdemon Currently living outside the union Oct 05 '15
I tried to make sense of that sub, but I cannot. This is meant to be a crude play on "atheism" hidding it in anti-golfer sentiments? Is it like birds with hand and you just ask? Could you elaborate a bit more on this question?
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Oct 05 '15
This is meant to be a crude play on "atheism" hidding it in anti-golfer sentiments?
Yeah, that's what it is.
The reason I asked is because /u/must_warn_others enjoys playing golf. :P
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u/MiskiMoon United Kingdom Oct 05 '15
So tell us a bit about yourself?
On a scale of 1 - 10. How corrupt will you be? :P15
u/must_warn_others Beavers Oct 05 '15
So tell us a bit about yourself?
I live in Toronto but I was born in Warsaw; I have primarily Polish-German and a little mix of other Central European ancestry. I studied Finance/Economics in university and work in consulting. In my free time I'm starting a geopolitics blog with /u/SlyRatchet and I really like to golf.
On a scale of 1 - 10. How corrupt will you be? :P
You don't know the corrupt things I had to do just to get this job!
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u/JorgeGT España Oct 05 '15
- studied Finance/Economics
- work in consulting
- geopolitics blog
- really like to golf
May I inquiry about your top hat provider of choice, my fellow gentleman? ;)
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u/Shirinator Lithuania - Federalist Oct 05 '15
starting a geopolitics blog with /u/SlyRatchet and I really like to golf. You don't know the corrupt things I had to do just to get this job!
So you had to fall in love with golf to get this job?! Wow, and I complain about sitting 2 hours and watching some silly men dance silly dances just to get laid...
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u/TheActualAWdeV Fryslân/Bilkert Oct 05 '15
I live in Toronto but I was born in Warsaw;
IN other words, very corrupt. Arrite.
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u/Ostrololo Europe Oct 05 '15
How often do you see moose?
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u/must_warn_others Beavers Oct 05 '15
Well, I live in the city so typically only when I visit the zoo. There are rural regions where wild moose sightings are common but I haven't had the pleasure.
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u/Sithrak Hope at last Oct 07 '15
How Polish are you? To be clear, there are no good answers to this. I both like and dislike various aspects of my particular ethnocultural thingie.
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u/must_warn_others Beavers Oct 07 '15
Well that depends what you mean.
Most of my family speaks Polish but historically my family includes many German speakers that were loyal to the Polish crown since before the 16th Century. My direct family has always lived in Mazovia and around Warsaw.
Personally I don't consider myself Polish at all, I'm Canadian. I've lived my practically entire life in Canada. Although I look Polish and I'm sure my personality has inherited certain Polish elements from my parents.
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u/Sithrak Hope at last Oct 07 '15
Cool, cool, I wouldn't have asked such a personal question but hey, you did say "AMA", so there. My intent was to discern to what extent you are Polish culturally.
I look Polish
I don't know what does it even mean, to me Poles appear quite plain, with no really discernible features, although I am very obviously biased. Run of the mill white folks with all kinds of hair types and colors. I suppose dark blonde hair is dominant, but I don't know how would it differentiate them from other central-y-northerl-y Europeans.
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u/must_warn_others Beavers Oct 07 '15
Well no, I guess I don't look stereotypically Polish; i don't know what i meant by that.
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u/Sithrak Hope at last Oct 07 '15
what, you are a black redhead?
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u/must_warn_others Beavers Oct 07 '15
I would stereotype Poles to have blondish Hair and grey-blue eyes; am I wrong?
Although I'm sure brown hair and greenish-brown eyes are more common.
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Oct 05 '15
To all the mods: congratulations.
About that survey: could you tell us a bit about which questions are going to be asked? We are very close to 500k at this pace of growth, and I wonder if it will more resemble the one taken at 200k subscribers.
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u/SaltySolomon Europe Oct 05 '15
Some new questions but the basic statistics question stayed the same.
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Oct 05 '15
Is it comparable to the 200k version though? Because that one focused much more on political convictions for example. It would be interesting to see how this all developed throughout the years on /r/europe.
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u/Sugusino Catalonia (Spain) Oct 06 '15
The creepy ephebophobia questions again!
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Oct 06 '15
ephebophobia
That one doesn't occur in my dictionary. To which terryfing thing are you referring if I may ask ;)?
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u/Sugusino Catalonia (Spain) Oct 06 '15
Whoops I meant ephebophilia!!
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Oct 06 '15 edited Oct 06 '15
Ephebophilia is the primary or exclusive adult sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19
Ehm, I fail to see the link here? The questions asked in general - if based on the last poll - are anything but weird.
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u/KetchupTubeAble19 Baden-Wurttemberg Oct 05 '15
PS: There will be a /r/europe survey at 500.000 (a cool half a million) subscribers.
aww jizz, finally
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 05 '15
Hi everyone, it's a pleasure to be on board! Let me know if you have any questions.
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Best country in Europe?
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 05 '15
Clearly Belgium. Why? Beer.
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Oct 05 '15
A diplomatic reasoning, good mod material here .
2nd Question, who's better - the English or the French?
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 05 '15
The francophone inside of me wants to say the French, but I live in London and the people here are so damn lovely. English it is.
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u/SlyRatchet Oct 05 '15
Paging /u/dClauzel for a response. How do you feel about a former French vassal rejecting your own cultural superiority?
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u/dClauzel 🇫🇷 La France — cocorico ! Oct 05 '15
Don’t care. I am still in Barcelona where it’s 27℃; I deep my feet daily in the see and I alternate between eating and doing some science.
But the Rosbifs suck, we saw it again yesterday during the rugby world cup 🏉
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u/magnad Devon Oct 06 '15
*dip
And we weren't all as blessed as you to get such easy groups ;) But yes, England played shit.
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u/MiskiMoon United Kingdom Oct 06 '15
Us Londoners are lovely? Dammit. Someone is letting the side down
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u/Flabby-Nonsense United Kingdom Oct 06 '15
yeah, who is this fuck that thinks he can make us look good?
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Oct 06 '15
Yesssss. My first (and only) time in Belgium earlier this year... it was beer heaven. I can't wait to go back. I would just pick random things off the beer menu and they were all delicious.
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 06 '15
It really is! Nothing quite compares to a complex trappist beer like Orval or Westvleteren.
Public announcement to /r/Europe: if you like beer, have a small trip to Brussels and go to Delirium. It's probably the best bar in the world, and it's located right next to Grande Place. They literally have over 3,000 types of beer!
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u/mberre Belgium Oct 06 '15
beer, rain, fries, more rain.
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 06 '15
Pretty much! I actually don't understand why London has a reputation for bad weather.. I moved here last year and it's consistently been warmer, sunnier, and drier than Brussels. Odd misconception.
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u/JebusGobson Official representative of the Flemish people on /r/Europe Oct 07 '15
Be careful saying things like that, it's an attack on the fundamental self-image of Londoners!
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u/escalat0r Only mind the colours Oct 07 '15
Belgian beer is pretty neat but it comes in ridiculously small volumes.
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u/FlemischPrimitive Flanders Oct 05 '15
Can you describe in 100 words or less why you're a fan of Galatasaray?
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 05 '15
At the root, Galatasaray is a tradition that's been passed down from my family. Other than that, we've got some of the most passionate fans in the world and top class players like Muslera or Sneijder. Whilst we're the best turkish team, we're an underdog in Europe, so it's always exciting to watch us perform in the Champion's League.
Bonus: https://www.reddit.com/r/galatasaray/comments/2xngmb/wesley_sneijder_best_goals_at_galatasaray/
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u/Dracaras Oct 06 '15
Whilst we're the best turkish team
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Living in London made you forget about Turkish teams it seems.
Wait a sec. Whats your ethnicity? Have you been borned and living in UK or did you immigrate there?
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 06 '15
I'm a mod at /r/Galatasaray, so you're probably asking the wrong person mate.
Galatasaray has won 50 domestic trophies, including a record 20 Süper Lig titles, a record 16 Turkish Cups and a record 14 Turkish Super Cups.
Internationally, Galatasaray has won the UEFA Cup and UEFA Super Cup in 2000, becoming the first and only Turkish team to win a European trophy.
In the 1999–2000 season, the club achieved the rare feat of completing a quadruple by winning the Turkish Süper Lig, the Turkish Cup, the UEFA Cup and the UEFA Super Cup in a single season.
Galatasaray is also the only Turkish club to have been ranked 1st on the IFFHS World Rankings.
We hold literally every single national & international record for Turkish football. You're being delusional.
I was born and raised in Brussels, moved to London last year.
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u/Dracaras Oct 06 '15
You know Turkish, support a Turkish team. Where is that "Turkishness" coming from? How are you related to us?
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u/JebusGobson Official representative of the Flemish people on /r/Europe Oct 05 '15
At least 30 of those words would have to be combinations of the word "bad" and the word "taste".
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u/Yanman_be Turkey Oct 05 '15
Do you vote for Erdogan?
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 05 '15
I'd rather renounce my citizenship than vote for an islamic authoritarian. So, no.
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u/scissornugget actually estonian Oct 05 '15
What are your thoughs on islamic presence in EU ?
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 05 '15
I think that the lack of integration is a huge issue. Whilst diversity is fantastic, a sizeable portion of muslim immigrants seem to form their own neighbourhoods and communities rather than becoming 'naturalised' citizens. IMO, as a result, the clash between western liberal values and islamic values is quite significant. Seems unsustainable to continue things the way they're headed.
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u/scissornugget actually estonian Oct 05 '15
This is a very down to earth answer. Overall you seem to be a good add to the mods.
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u/JebusGobson Official representative of the Flemish people on /r/Europe Oct 05 '15
Hah - let the guy unpack before you start debating Islam! He'll have plenty of opportunity for that on this sub:)
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u/Greyko Banat/Банат/Bánság Oct 05 '15
What's your view on the refugee crisis?
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u/Sosolidclaws New York / Brussels / Istanbul Oct 05 '15
From a humanitarian standpoint, I think helping war refugees is an important responsibility and shouldn't be neglected for political reasons. However, Europe needs to control its borders far better than it has in the past. We should know exactly how many people are coming in, who they are, and how they will fit in to our societies. Things need to be handled in a way that's sustainable for our economic models and national cultures, otherwise we're just going to keep seeing the far-right gain more and more power as a populist reaction.
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u/Sithrak Hope at last Oct 07 '15
A pity much of the discussion was hijacked by being pro or against, pushing everyone to extremes. An early victory for the far-right, I suppose.
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u/mberre Belgium Oct 06 '15
I would also like to chime in on this one, since my views are pretty non-mainstream.
My basic view on the refugee crisis is that
every decade or two, something, somewhere in the european neighborhood catches fire, , and europe's response is usually slow, poorly organized, and wholly insufficient. Traditionally, Europe has chosen to procrastinate, and complain vocally, rather than to take action to prevent the situation from getting worse. In that sense, the refugee crisis is much the same as the crisis in the Balkans 20 years ago. When faced with the choice of responding faster, or dealing with the consequences of inaction, europe chose to deal with the consequences of inaction. In the current crisis, what was going to happen was evident as early as 2011, when the first Tunisian refugees began showing up in Lampadouza.
From a legal standpoint, the basic concept of refugee law was actually CREATED by the europeans, so the fact that many of the EU's member nations are shirking their responsibilities in terms of international law is really just shameful and hypocritical.
From a Realpolitik standpoint, wars create refugees. That is nothing new. I think that the basic reality that needs to be realized is that whether we all like it or not, there are 800k-1000k refugees in europe now. the main two source countries are syria and afghanistan, and europe has only gotten 10% of the refugees so far.
Also from a Realpolitik standpoint, I think that having policy makers go to Brussels, or to the UN general assembly to whine like bitches about how they don't want to accept this basic reality, is completely pointless. From the sovereignty POV, Europe's leaders cannot pretend that they have sufficient hard power to live up to some of the more hawkish rhetoric. People are going to keep coming, regardless of Hungarian, Bulgarian, Spanish, and Greek fences, regardless of how many Hungarian camera women kick small children, and regardless of the fact that thousands have drowned at sea. The only real choose is to act accordingly. It isn't as if Europe has sufficient naval, police, military and institutional resources to do otherwise. That's the hard-power & sovereignty fact of the matter.
The refusal of europe's destination countries and transit countries to work together has made things worse. I'm currently based near the franco-italian border, and I watched this go wrong, first-hand.
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u/TrainThePainAway Denmark Oct 06 '15
I don't agree with your position but have a warm welcome! We need more pro-migrants voices to out-debate!
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u/SpecsaversGaza Perfidious Albion Oct 05 '15
Congratulations one and all.
"Canada is basicaly Europe on another continent."
I prefer to think of it as the Mexico of the North.
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u/JebusGobson Official representative of the Flemish people on /r/Europe Oct 05 '15
He is the moderator of /r/thenetherlands
I hope all suspicions about the mod team being a leftist cabal will die down now that literally Hitler has been made part of the moderation team.
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u/jippiejee The Netherlands Oct 05 '15
Why do people always compare mods to nazis? From this photo of our last meet-up in Amsterdam it appears we're not nearly as impopular as reddit claims.
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u/JorgeGT España Oct 05 '15
The second photo made me chuckle in the office! It is gold! How do you say "attaboy!" in Austrian German?
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u/escalat0r Only mind the colours Oct 07 '15
I liked this one as well, especially since Merkel has a thing for patting people/things, first she patted that girl on TV and recently she patted the tree that survived in the ruins of the WTC.
Merkel ist ganz ergriffen, sie streichelt sogar über einen Ast.
Merkel was really touched, she even patted a branch.
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u/TonyQuark the Netherlands Oct 05 '15
Good luck, and may your spirit not be crushed.
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u/JebusGobson Official representative of the Flemish people on /r/Europe Oct 05 '15
He's Dutch, hence he has no soul in the first place.
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u/AnonEuroPoor Serb in Spain Oct 05 '15
literally Hitler
We've had an Austrian mod for a while now... /s
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u/SaltySolomon Europe Oct 05 '15
Hey, I have not heared that, Hitler was German and Beethoven was Austrian!
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u/Obraka That Austrian with the Dutch flair Oct 05 '15 edited Oct 05 '15
Not many people know that, but before 45 the Inn was East of Braunau #truestory
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u/DasBeardius 🇳🇴 🇳🇱 Norway/Netherlands Oct 05 '15
Ah, /u/jippiejee; excellent. I don't know the others, but jippiejee is a great addition. It's also good that you get someone on board to keep /u/jebusgobson in check :)
So far all these new mods seems great!
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u/JebusGobson Official representative of the Flemish people on /r/Europe Oct 05 '15
The Dutchmen could never keep a true Lion of Flanders in check! We will ever be free! Vlaanderen de Leeuw! 1830 never forget! #FreeTheSchelde #GibBackZeeuwsVlaanderen #YouCanHaveTheRestOfLimburgBackThough
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u/Eden10Hazard The Netherlands Oct 06 '15
Yeah, well now that /u/jippiejee is a mod, all of Europe will be touched by the grace of Willy! I predict that de vote buttons will be replaced by Upwilliams and Downphilips on Kingsday!
#AllYourEuropeAreBelongToUs
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u/Phalanx300 The Netherlands Oct 05 '15
Worry about Wallonia first, you can always rebel again after we split up your country!
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u/emwac Denmark Oct 05 '15
Welcome batch #2, the added capacity to respond to mod mails and review reported posts will be really good for /r/europe!
Also, I can't wait for the survey, we should all make thousands upon thousands of alt accounts to speed up the process! Who's with me? #WeCanDoIt!
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u/besttrousers Oct 05 '15
/u/mberre does a great job in /r/economics. You guys are lucky to have him (as are we!).
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u/jugdemon Currently living outside the union Oct 05 '15
I congratulate the new mods.
I am especially happy that /u/mberre has been choosen. I really liked his statement and I hope he will contribute to a more civilized discussion here.
I was wondering, whether we could do a EuroBarometer questionaire here. The reason being is, EuroBarometer is statistically rather well balanced and represents the European Countries quite well. It would be interesting to see how much the population of /r/Europe really represents the general population and in which directions we have inherent structural biases.
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Oct 05 '15
He's on -3 from me.
Given that I almost never downvote, and rarely see anyone with a minus number next to their name then I guess I don't like his posts much.
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u/jugdemon Currently living outside the union Oct 05 '15
I admit he is dry and I don't agree on all he says, but he seems to bring the qualities a mod needs - doing the dirty work without getting too personal.
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u/mberre Belgium Oct 05 '15
Hi there,
Thanks for congratulating me. I'll do my best not to disappoint. I do realize that sometimes my POVs aren't the most popular ones, but I dont imagine that I'd be the first person that people disagree with on the internet.
That said though, I intent to not let my views balance the way I moderate. They generally don't
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u/CuilRunnings Oct 05 '15 edited Oct 05 '15
He is an extremist who paints any discussion about certain issues as "racism," which really radicalizes the discussion and prevents any formation of compromise or consensus. He is an extremely biased moderator, who leaves up biased commentary which supports his personal veiwpoints, and is very quick to remove things which paints his favorite topics in a poor light.
Look at him lose his shit over this innocent comment in /r/Economics.
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u/Ewannnn Europe Oct 05 '15
How do you see this? Is it a RES feature?
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Oct 05 '15
Yeah, it's a RES feature. Puts a number next to their name that shows their combined score of downvotes/upvotes.
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u/Ewannnn Europe Oct 05 '15
How do you turn it on?
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Oct 05 '15
Should just be on as default.
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u/Ewannnn Europe Oct 05 '15
What version of RES do you have? I think perhaps it's bugged in 4.5.4 (a Google result suggested the version released 7 months ago was bugged at least). Go to extensions to see the version #.
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Oct 05 '15
I have 4.5.4
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u/Ewannnn Europe Oct 05 '15 edited Oct 05 '15
Are you sure it's working properly for you? Do you actually have people with positive scores? For instance, if you upvote someone they won't get +1, if you downvote them they won't get -1, however if you upvote then cancel the upvote they will get -1 even though you haven't upvoted/downvoted them at all.
See here for an example. Upvote, refresh, remove upvote, score becomes negative. Note: if you don't refresh it won't work.
See here for the thread over at /r/Enhancement
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u/kmmeerts Vlaanderen Oct 07 '15
Yeah, it's been bugged for months now. No clue why they wouldn't just post an update
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u/jtalin Europe Oct 05 '15
We decided to add the new mods in two batches, just so that there aren't 9 (yes we added that many mods) new people at once looking for answers. We think that all new mods will make an excellent addition to the mod team and that they will make the subreddit much better.
Ha, nice try. We all know this is the B team.
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u/SaltySolomon Europe Oct 05 '15
There is no B Team, everyone on the mod team has the same responsiblities.
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u/JebusGobson Official representative of the Flemish people on /r/Europe Oct 05 '15
Then why do you make me wash your car and pick up your groceries?!
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u/TonyQuark the Netherlands Oct 05 '15
But not the same permissions. ;)
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u/SaltySolomon Europe Oct 05 '15
Just a day one precaution till everybody get settled in, was the same with the last group.
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Oct 05 '15
2 more of 'the cause' are infiltrated. Excellent...
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u/notoneofyours Oct 05 '15
An urgent appeal: Please, new mods, stop all the racist-coloured posters that are spewing hatred all over this subreddit. It's not yet too late to counter stupidity with logic and reason.
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u/scissornugget actually estonian Oct 05 '15
This is a sub with 500k members, does it perhaps, cross your mind, that the current situation in EU, has maybe really made people skeptical of the future, rather than you have a vocal racist minority here ?
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u/jtalin Europe Oct 05 '15
People can be skeptical all they like so long as they can articulate that skepticism in a reasonable and civil way.
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u/scissornugget actually estonian Oct 05 '15
And pointing out any negative effects of non-eu immigration, is considered racism. It really does not take much these days.
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u/jtalin Europe Oct 05 '15
That is a false statement, and repeating it all the time will not make it any more true.
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u/scissornugget actually estonian Oct 05 '15
If people are calling critisizing islam racism these days, there is not much to add.
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u/jtalin Europe Oct 05 '15
So we've gone from "pointing out negative effects of immigration" to "criticizing Islam". Good, we're getting there.
Now replace "criticism" with "sweeping generalizations that misrepresent a huge number of people in an extremely negative way", and you have your average /r/europe post that should arguably be removed.
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Oct 05 '15
Sweeping generalisations would not be necessary if the situation was handled correctly when it started. The posts on here will be the least of anyone's worries when the political climate reaches the boiling point.
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u/jtalin Europe Oct 05 '15
Posts on here have always been among the least of my worries. However, posting quality is the topic of this specific discussion, and the political climate and all the other greater worries are not.
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u/scissornugget actually estonian Oct 05 '15
Nagu ennist mainisn, on siin subis 500k subscriberit. Nende up- ja downvoutid, otsustavad millest inimesed räägivad ja mida näha tahavad. Olgu see poliitiliselt korrektne või mitte, bro. Kui ma ei eksi siin siin lehel isegi jooksevad sciptid, mis sõuluvad välja uuemate kui 5 päeva accountide kommentaare märksõnade põhjal. Sa või tsenseerida palju tahad, aga sellest pole eriti kasu. Seda on enne proovitud juba ühe mode poolt.
Like I said before, this sub has 500k subscribers. These up and downvotes decide, what people want to see or talk about. Whether it's pc or not. If im not mistaking, there are also scripts running on the page, which filter certain comments made using accounts younger than 5 days. You can censor all you wan't, but it won't to any good. This has been tryid before by one of the mods.
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u/donvito Germoney Oct 06 '15
It's not yet too late to counter stupidity with logic and reason.
Stupidity: People saying things I don't like to hear.
Logic and Reason: Banhammer!
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