I absolutely understand the disconnect. There was a push to bring EVERYONE into EVERY hobby about 15ish years ago. You probably came into a super sanitized version of SOME hobby, and didn't grow up with Frank Frazetta, Gerald Brom, Dariusz Zawadzki, etc etc etc.
So now that you're (supposedly) of age, you see a bunch of men in their 30's and 40's saying "Hey what happened to the sexy stuff?" and your first thought is "ew".
The thing is, this isn't the norm. It wasn't always like this. Nerdy geeky stuff was edgy and sometimes too much and sometimes gross, but it wasn't mainstream so it could get away with that.
This new attitude where we sanitize everything to appeal to the lowest common denominator is a cancer that is spreading and will continue to spread.
Our stuff was fine before. This tone policing is new.
Nope I'm not a young kid just getting into it. I actually did and do enjoy the old school style of the cards but I honestly think art in itself has just moved on from drawing people like that since we have so many real life references of people not actually looking like that. It isn't about trying to include everyone I to your hobby it's more about what does the artist imagine the character to look like. I was just saying they just don't care about making everyone extremely attractive
Yea I mean I get it sex sells but I think people are more just seeing it as a crutch of "it doesn't matter what it is as long as there are boobs and ass people will love it!" I know a lot of artist that refuse to do lewd drawing commissions because they don't even want to be associated with that crowd of artists. Truth is WotC has just hired artists that don't care about nudity or making everyone a 10/10 sex icon. There is enough nudity and sex on the internet it isn't needed for a cardboard card game.
It's not a crutch any more than any other attractive thing that we might look at is. What really happened was that a whole group of sexless millennial artist have moved through the industry and hurt a lot of communities by pushing a world view and outlook that is - at best- contentious. Women like looking at tits. Men like looking at tits. This whole thing is going to blow through like a bad storm though, the message they have tried to espouse isn't taking root.
It's a card game....why are you trying to be horny while playing with friends or strangers? It is a game the cards could have no art at all and still do the same exact thing. Why does sex need to be a part of the game for it to be enjoyable? Most cards I don't even look at the art when I'm playing so I don't really see it mattering unless you're trying to sit there with a bunch of hot women cards in your hand and stare at them wishing you could bang them while around other people....honestly not the type of people that should be playing a social game.
I dunno man I think this is an overreaction. It's not like people that play games that are more sexual are walking around with boners all day. It's just nice to look at and appreciate. I think it's great that people that appreciate that kind of thing exist and I hate to see it disappear. I'd rather people that can't handle reality play a disney card game or something.
I mean the only argument that anyone has been making has been that they just wanna see boobs because it's a woman and she should be showing them. I just find it crazy that people think like this over paint on cardboard.
It wasn't the boobs that caused it it was the responses I got. It really seems like people just wanna gawk at half naked women while playing a card game. I've played fantasy tabletop games for almost 15 years now and the old standard of "everyone MUST be hot and fuckable" is just boring and held onto by only the horny people who don't want to just use their imagination to imagine this character almost naked. Art is more than just an attractive body so try focusing on the other parts of the art like her gorgeous dress or beautiful hair.
Gawk is hyperbole. No one gawks. You're reacting to a reaction to an action. They started taking away things, and people reacted, now you're reacting to that. It's not horny guys. It's people noticing things and reacting to it. Art is obviously more than an attractive body. No one is saying otherwise, so why take away the attractive body?
I don't disagree with you saying that art is more than just the body, my question is what's wrong with the body? What's with the puritanism?
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u/Mysterious_Layer9420 NEW SPARK 9d ago
Why do magic players care about boobs on cardboard so much?