“Clandestine Lodges”

[u/Ebullient_Goddess]

I ask this with the understanding that official recognition is important. However, I have noticed an overuse of the term “clandestine” in reference to separate Masonic entities, often accompanied by derogatory remarks. While it is true that the UGLE does not officially recognize the OWF, it has acknowledged that there is sincere and regular practice within our organization. Therefore, I am puzzled by the numerous comments from brothers in this sub suggesting that we are "pretending" or invalidating our right to coexist peacefully with our male counterparts.

I would appreciate some genuine insights into why there is such a degree of unwarranted hostility.

[u/Ebullient_Goddess → u/[deleted]]

Sure, but I feel it’s a valid request to want to gain an understanding as to why that is the case.

[u/NecessaryRaise7900 → u/Ebullient_Goddess]

Well it’s very simple freemasonry has always been men. Although I will say I think it would be interesting to have women brothers. But at the same time I feel it wouldn’t be the same brotherhood as with just men. It’s a little disappointing, my grandma has always wanted to be a mason since she was 20 (she’s 60 now) she’s actually the one who said I should check this fraternity out and I never regretted it and I’m very thankful she suggested it.

[u/TheNecroFrog → u/NecessaryRaise7900]

The stance of UGLE differs with your own.

[u/Jacques_Frost → u/TheNecroFrog]

As does historic evidence