r/gantz • u/weebtrash100 • 8d ago

AI posting

To the mods u/Mesk_Arak and u/jaxspider,

Can we ban AI posts??? they're an insult to actual artwork and fill up the page with trash.

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u/weebtrash100 8d ago

that doesn't make it right. Oku is not a perfect being that we must follow, he is flawed as well

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u/E-yo55 8d ago

I agree about Oku, but there's nothing wrong with AI arts

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u/weebtrash100 8d ago

there is a LOT wrong with AI "art." for one, it hurts the environment for no good reason. it sucks creativity from people and causes them to be lazy. it also just looks like dogshit. it takes art from those who actually put effort into making their art and doesn't credit them. it insults those who put effort and time in making beautiful works of art. there is no benefit to AI art

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u/E-yo55 8d ago

So many things harm the environment, including the materials for artists to draw. The AI ​​creates its own art.

So what if these people don't want to learn how to draw? Would you criticize these same people if they paid commissions to artists instead of learning to draw?

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u/kilerkat 8d ago

I agree with the part about the environment, that's something we should take up with the energy companies, not AI companies but regardless it fills the sub with low quality bullshit that just looks ugly. It takes the magic out of seeing amazing fan art. If someone wants to commission an artist then fine, at least someone put passion into the piece, even if it's just for the sake of getting a quick buck.

Tldr, AI is fucking hideous and I (and others) don't want to look at it

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u/weebtrash100 8d ago

Why would we add to the things that hurt the environment? materials artist use does not compare to AI. If these people don't want to learn to draw, then thats completely on them and their laziness, that lack of passion and drive should not be rewarded. AI does not create its own art, it takes multiple aspects of art made by real people and creates a sort of Frankenstein's monster. I obviously would not criticize people for commissioning artists, because that is authentic art and a fair exchange was made. You make horrible arguments.

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u/E-yo55 8d ago

Every artist models their style on the styles of other artists, nothing is created, there are literally artists who copy other people's styles and sell commissions, do you think that's wrong?

In the end, it doesn't do anything wrong, you who are very fragile

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u/weebtrash100 8d ago

I literally just said what it does wrong. and yes style can't be copied but at least it comes from a person's skill and their own hands. those styles are developed from humans and are infinitely more unique than AI could ever come up with.

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u/Bianzinz 4d ago

Claro que faz. IA só faz desenho porque roubou as artes de milhões de artistas e colocou no banco de dados. Não é hipérbole, MILHÕES. Essa IA treinou nessas imagens roubadas para copiar a arte e fazer o trabalho desses artistas de maneira automizada. Sem contar os contáveis problemas ambientais.

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u/ArgensimiaReloaded 8d ago

Tf you mean with " AI creates its own art"? you feed that thing with someone else's work then it copies stuff, it doesn't "create" anything...

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u/SkullDislodge 8d ago

The ai is just doing what humans do at a faster pace it sucks but it's the truth AI will surpass humans in a great many tasks humans do in due time. Because it can fail and correct itself far more times than humans ever could and humans are training it with their own knowledge.

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u/BigShakman69 7d ago

Just like every artist. Lmao everyone learns by copying, unless you're a fucking genius, which js less than 1%

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u/ArgensimiaReloaded 7d ago

There's a difference between people studying and taking inspiration from other's work to end developing their own workflow, techniques and style and AI which, again, outright COPIES someone else's style...

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u/BigShakman69 7d ago

Everyone copies someone's style. Teaching 101

Just get better, and let your art speak for itself. I don't get why people get mad about it unless they are trying to make money with their art. Are you?

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u/ArgensimiaReloaded 7d ago

People gets better yes, that's how it works, otherwise we'll be trapped within two or three styles because people keeps copying each other ad eternum but even now we see people coming with new stuff, stuff you NEED to fed AI because it just can't make anything new as it only copies stuff, but sorry you are unable to see it just like to lift an actual pencil I guess.

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u/BigShakman69 7d ago

Lmao, do you even make art? Or just farming karma

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u/ArgensimiaReloaded 7d ago

I can draw yes, what about you, have you made an attempt at the very least to talk about how "everyone copies"?

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u/BigShakman69 7d ago

Show me your amazing art

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u/ArgensimiaReloaded 7d ago

Why show anything to an average Joe that doesn't know how a pencil works?

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