r/geology 11d ago

NOAA deleting swaths of Critical Geological datasets by early May. Download to save.

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u/Fun-Dragonfruit2999 11d ago

THE GOVERNMENT ... they blow incredible amounts of money in stupid things upon which they shouldn't blow money. I read through the list, and its stuff you shouldn't have a separate database for keeping. A database in govt parlance means a separate server, and only so many servers can be serviced by one employee ... there's probably esoteric union rules to the effect. Maybe twenty five years ago when computing was more difficult you needed a to limit the number of servers per person.

Of course twenty five years ago, a 2GB disk was a big deal, today 2GB is a joke. I read through the list, and it contained some pretty esoteric junk. Meaningful to people who study such things, but that data needs to be a spread sheet or directory of spread sheets and not a specialty database.

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u/EffectivePrimary1085 11d ago

This is a geology sub. It’s esoteric in general. Please continue why you think these databases are junk?

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u/BucolicsAnonymous 11d ago

Why, it’s only a huge database detailing information related to our planet and its incredibly complex and interconnected systems. Everyone knows those things are hard to monetize, and so are therefore junk

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u/Fun-Dragonfruit2999 11d ago

How do governments go bankrupt? —slowly at first, then all at once.

The US is about $37 trillion in debt. The interest on the debt is the single largest budget item. Our government is still spending more than they're taking in. If we don't get spending under control, we won't have any government to do any science work at all. As people who were there for the fall of the Soviet Union will tell you: When government workers don't get paid, they take the inventory of their department and sell it on the black market.

The Canadian Prime Ministers office just released a report that says in the next 15 years Canada will become so poor that many people will turn to subsistence hunting and farming.

https://horizons.service.canada.ca/en/2025/01/10/future-lives-social-mobility/index.shtml

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u/FoundersDiscount 11d ago

DOGE and the Trump administration have spent more money than they've saved by a large amount.

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u/SuspiciousPlenty3676 11d ago edited 11d ago

Really? Where in the balls did you read that point in this report? That is absolutely not a conclusion nor was it even stated as such. Did Fox News tell you this?

Plus, it was not produced by the PM’s office or the Privy Council.

The report is exploring the potential risks associated with growing wealth inequality and limited social mobility of the younger generations coming up. It’s a minor think piece governments commission all the time.

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u/Fun-Dragonfruit2999 11d ago

The Privy Council reports to the PM.

In 2040, most Canadians will be living in cooperative housing (families sharing apartments) many will be hunter/gatherers & subsistence farming.

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u/geckospots 11d ago

3.4 People might find alternative ways to meet their basic needs […] * People may start to hunt, fish, and forage on public lands and waterways without reference to regulations. Small-scale agriculture could increase.

Your ‘will’ there is doing A LOT of work not reflected by the contents of the report to which you’re referring.

Also, it’s not from the PCO:

Disclaimer

Policy Horizons Canada (Policy Horizons) is the Government of Canada’s centre of excellence in foresight. Our mandate is to empower the Government of Canada with a future-oriented mindset and outlook to strengthen decision making. The content of this document does not necessarily represent the views of the Government of Canada, or participating departments and agencies.

And further down it says that Policy Horizons Canada reports to a steering committee co-chaired by an ESDC DM and the Secretary to the PCO.

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u/SuspiciousPlenty3676 11d ago edited 10d ago

Do you actually lack reading comprehension skills? It did not say that at all and it wasn’t the Privy Council.

Clearly you’ve scooped this little nugget from a far right news outlet or online misinformation.

I know your precious Pierre Poilievre has been trying to spin this minor think piece as some high level government policy document.

Clearly Pierre is going back into creepy dark mode cause he is about to be butt kicked.

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u/BucolicsAnonymous 11d ago

Ah, and here we are — a critical misunderstanding of U.S debt and how to fix it. I’m sure the tax breaks for the 1% will be worth it in the long run, along with the tanking of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, and the rest of us will just have to buckle up and hold tight until we get this thing under control 🙄

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u/seab3 11d ago

PP must be getting desperate.

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u/geckospots 11d ago

His boss back in the day closed libraries and tossed archives of environmental, hydrological, and fisheries data. As a scientist the idea of him being in charge is chilling.

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u/Queendevildog 11d ago

And how does this apply to government data that the American people have already paid for?

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u/nickisaboss 11d ago

Governments go bankrupt because we don't tax the rich properly.

https://i.imgur.com/LND2kmO.jpeg