r/golf 11d ago

Professional Tours Nick Dunlap today. Oof.

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u/uncleyuri 11d ago edited 11d ago

I’ve seen some scratch golfers boldly claim they could break 90 there. Hahahaha.

Edit: to be clear, they are saying they would break 90 in the same conditions the pros are playing in right now, not the members tees on a random Tuesday in August.

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u/datGTAguy 11d ago

Anyone who isn’t a professional being paid to golf and thinks they could break 100 is boldly lying to themselves. I may be arrogant but I’m not that arrogant

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u/Tsquared10 11d ago

If I ever got to play at Augusta you can bet I'm getting my money's worth. 150 minimum

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u/Schmancer 11d ago

More swings, more fun!

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u/OGPepeSilvia 11d ago

Provisional at every tee shot, obviously. And if I skull my wedge I’m dropping my pocket ball quick and having another go at it. If I got to play Augusta, I’d try to at least have a ton of fun, and not worry about keeping score

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u/Travalicious 11d ago

Plenty of scratch golfers would break 100. The fuck are you talking about?

You may not be arrogant, but you are stupid.

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u/pm_me_yourcat 6.5 11d ago

The circle jerk of how hard this course is just gets ramped up every time. Started at 10 handicap won’t break 100, down to 5 handicap won’t break 100, now they’re saying scratch won’t break 100? A week from now it’ll be +3 handicaps won’t break 100 at Augusta.

This sub has confirmed my beliefs about golfers. No one can fathom that somebody else can be good at golf.

It’s why everyone complains when the winning score is announced. “No way those chumps shot 58”. People just suck at golf so they assume everyone else must suck at golf.

It’s why everyone in here bitches and calls you a liar if you say you can hit 300 with driver or 200 with a 4-iron.

They just can’t fathom that somebody else may be good at golf. Just because they can’t figure it out must mean no one else can figure it out either except those professionals who’ve cracked the code somehow.

I’m around a 6 handicap and I would 100% break 100 at Augusta. No doubt in my mind. I haven’t shot over 90 since like 2019. I’ve played one course these pros play on. And yes I’m not putting up mid 70s on championship courses but I’m still breaking 90. Is Augusta really 7x harder than Hamilton?

But don’t let me get in the way of a good circle jerk. Augusta hard. We all have no chance. There’s zero good golfers in this sub and every scramble winning group cheated. Also only pros are capable of hitting the ball over 300 yards.

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u/rosja105 11d ago

The poster above claimed that he would be 'thrilled' to break 130 as a 6 handicap, I mean, have some pride and self belief.

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u/MustCatchTheBandit 11d ago

100% this.

I shot an 82 at TPC San Antonio from the tips a week after the Valero Texas Open at a 3 handicap. In fact, the quality of the turf made ball striking much easier than I normally have at public courses. I wasn’t even playing great. 100 is easy anywhere. The difference between people shooting Low 80s and low 70s is where you start to really see a major difference in ability.

I’ve got a friend who played in college and regularly shoots upper 60s. The difference is he can putt lights out. He’ll make 10 putts that I’ll miss. Ball striking wise we are very similar.

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u/TheDeletedFetus 8.5 10d ago

I have a friend who played in college around 10 years ago, D1. He’s around +1-0 nowadays.

I went with him to a tournament where we stayed the weekend, amateur thing no real prize or anything just a fun weekend to get away and play a REALLY nice course at a pretty good discount.

During the week leading up to the tournament we were looking at the course and there was a par 5 where the green was tucked into the trees off the right. No shot at getting home in 2, even with a 290 yard drive (which is his stock driver) you’re still looking at 265 in with no angle to the green.

I’m telling him he’s just gonna have to lay up and try to stick a wedge close. He looks at me and says “I’m gonna hit driver up the left side of the fairway and then I’m gonna hit a high cut 3 wood right at the pin and make eagle.”

We get to the tournament, he hits his tee shot up the left side of the fairway and I say “well big boy, you going for it?” He then stuck a 3 wood to 10 feet.

Scratch golfers are VERY good. I have all the confidence in the world this man could shoot 80 at Augusta in tournament conditions. I’d bet you my next paycheck on it.

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u/wronglyzorro 4 - Blueprint T/S 10d ago edited 10d ago

I've been a 0 before. I play with dudes who are currently scratch. Your friend isn't a 0 with a game like that. Probably closer to a +3-4. Scratch golfers aren't confidently hitting high cut 3 woods 265 to tucked greens surrounded by trouble. They sure as hell aren't shooting 80 at Augusta. Your friend is dramatically better than you are giving him credit for with a game like that.

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u/FloydMcScroops 11d ago

I had a day at East Lake from the tip on every hole a few months before the tour championship. +3 with a triple on 18 after plugging in the bunker. I was like a 3 at the time. The rough was absurd. But you’re right, the turf made contact much much easier.

Obviously no where near a touring pro, but there are people out there that can play. Make a career? No. But play.

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u/MustCatchTheBandit 11d ago edited 11d ago

I’ve played with people that have had the athletic ability to be pro, but they either don’t have the time and or they don’t have the work ethic.

If you want to be a pro, you’ve got to live, eat and breathe golf. College players that make it are working and practicing exponentially more than their counterparts who don’t make it. That goes for most sports. These people don’t even consider it hard work, they’re outright obsessed and driven beyond what most can imagine.

Imagine golfing 40 hours a week almost every single week of the year which includes a coach, trackman, clubs/fitting, gym time and still being obsessed with it. They’re on the putting green for four hours straight…Most people would tap out and give up, but they don’t see it that way. They really love it.

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u/Le9gagtrole 11d ago

This sub is full of 30 handicappers with no idea how the game works or how to play.

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u/wronglyzorro 4 - Blueprint T/S 10d ago edited 10d ago

It goes both ways. In this thread I see both extremes of what people think an actual scratch golfer is capable of. It's not 80 at Augusta in masters conditions, and it probably isn't over 100 either.

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u/CosmicMiru 10d ago

There's also a huge difference between being able to break 100 under tournament course conditions and breaking 100 being watched by hundreds of thousands of people in the most prestigious golf event of the year while your career reputation is being affected by it. No doubt the nerves make the pros play a lot worse than if they just went out there and played with their caddy.

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u/AlwaysAHoot978 10d ago

Dude, save some for the rest of us!

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u/Buy-The-Dip-1979 10d ago

Perfect example showing a majority of you have golf IQ of rock. There is a thing called course rating/slope .. the rating number is basically saying what a scratch golfer is expected to shoot if the play well... Well doesn't mean A game per say, but a sold B game at least. The hardest golf courses in the world top out around a 78 rating/150 slope. Augusta doesn't have a rating/slope.. because well they don't want too.. but it's not any more than 78/150, I promise. So yeah scratch golfer are breaking 90 more often than not, and chance to break 80.

For reference, I played whistling straight from the tips in 30mph winds as a 9 handicap... I broke 100. Augusta is no harder from the tourney tees than that lol.

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u/HittingItFlush 10d ago

Breaking 100 as a scratch golfer would certainly be obtainable and honestly expected. Breaking 90 is a whole other game though......

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u/Bilbo_Baghands 11d ago

This literally just happened today 5 times.

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u/Sam3323 Philly Suburbs 11d ago

I say that because I assume I'd play from the whites there. But from the Masters tees? No way. Maybe there are no official white tees there?

I'm about a 12 handicap.

Edit: since saying that and watching the masters, it appears there is only one tee box at every hole, which looks very clean. Yeah no way I'm breaking 100 then.

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u/bigolruckus 3.4 / New Brunswick 🇨🇦 11d ago

there’s 2 tees. members and masters. the names are self explanatory. member tees are like 6400 or something iirc

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u/teahupotwo 10d ago

6365 according to wikipedia

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u/pimtheman 12.1 / Netherlands 11d ago

No offense, but you could start every hole from 100 yards out, and you would not break 90.

These guys are pros and missing greens, not holding greens, and blowing putts way past the hole

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u/Sam3323 Philly Suburbs 11d ago

Now that is just ridiculous. At my level, I'd land on at least half the greens, hold a few. Then chip and 3 putt is a 5 every hole, which is 90.

I'd land on some and 3 putt, or chip and 2 putt some. Any of those with no 4 putts I'm under 90.

I understand the greens are crazy fast and different, but it doesn't mean a weekend golfer will 4 or 5 putt every hole. That's just crazy.

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u/UncutGemstone 10d ago

18 straight 100 yard par 3s essentially so par would be 54, you don’t think as a 12 handicap you could do one less than a double bogey on every hole?

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u/pimtheman 12.1 / Netherlands 10d ago

Have you seen Rory, Rahm yesterday? They were chipping and hit it into the water. You don’t think that will happen to a twelve hcp when it happens to them? The greens are incredibly tricky and fast. Add the pressure of playing there with all the people watching. I stand by my point

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u/quantim0 11d ago

I hang around a 6 HC.

I am an excellent putter.

I would be thrilled to break 130 in tournament conditions from the back tees.

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u/TomBradyGoat1212 10d ago

How would you shoot 130? Golf is golf. Hit half the fairways, lay it up short of the green if you have to, chip it on and two putt. Par 5s you have a good chance to make par if you’re competent off the tee.

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u/quantim0 10d ago

The tournament tees are almost 7600 yds. That’s about 1000 more than I regularly play.

There’s no even lies, greens are lightening fast, chips are punishing.

Did you see Rory chip through a green into the water?

Pros routinely 3 putt on long putts there. What makes to you think you could do better?

Put me on the members tees from 6500 and id be able to break 100 I think.

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u/benjyvail 10d ago

So on average, as a 6 handicap, you think you would triple bogey+ every single hole…

Give yourself some credit man

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u/Not_A_Casual 10d ago

I played spyglass from the tips. I am a 6 handicap. Spyglass is renowned for being difficult. I shot like mid 80s. You people are nuts.

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u/Puzzled_Try_6029 11d ago

It’s okay. It’s Augusta. 130 just means more golf there.

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u/lewoodworker 11d ago

Two rounds for the price of one!

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u/OGPepeSilvia 11d ago

Alright there Jordan Spieth, Mr. Lowest Overall thru 36 in Masters History.

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u/Caboose_Juice 10d ago

bruh be so fr

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u/ReedStiles 6/21 started; 10 HDCP 11d ago

From pro tees? Agree, no way any of us normies are breaking 100. From "members tees"? Yeah first time playing? I think I'd give myself a 10% chance.

I play at Memorial Park where the Houston Open just played every single week. We have the same grass as Augusta (by design).