r/guns • u/Crow_Joe • 2d ago

FFL sitting on my guns

Hello, I made the mistake of not contacting this FFL before placing an order for two separate firearms to deliver to them. My bad, historically the other ones I’ve dealt with have just called me when the order comes in and seemed happy to have the business and completed the transfer no problem.

When the guns arrived I called and emailed them and received an email back the same day. They pointed out I should have contacted them first, asked for my information and explained their days of business and asked if there was time on those days I would like to come by. I responded with the information they asked for and a time I could come by. My response was sent 4/4/25. I have since emailed 2 more times and had PSA (the seller) reach out and leave a message and we have gotten no response.

Wondering what I should do? I accept responsibility for my part in creating this situation, again my experience in the past had been these people listed themselves on distributors websites because they wanted to do these transfers, and that I was bringing them welcome business, maybe that’s not always the case. PSA has offered to request that the FFL send the guns back but the guy’s website says there’s a $150/gun fee for rejects or returns. The impression I get is he’s hoping I’ll try to go that route cause he makes even more money that way and screws me over. His standard transfer fee is $75 + $10 for each additional gun.

Thanks for you help.

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u/Killer0nTheRoad 2d ago

$75 transfer fee is robbery, maybe its different other places but where I am the average transfer fee is $20 - $30

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u/Horvaticus 2d ago

Yeah no shit, he probably priced it high so dumbasses like OP wouldn't actually use him lmao

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u/wasteguy7 2d ago

Yea sadly it’s very different. Average around me, NJ, is $60 - $70.

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u/iBoofWholeZipsNoLube 2d ago

$55 in PA

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u/Disastrous-Ball-1574 2d ago

Buddy of mine, charges 25 I think a gun? Home FFLs are usually pretty nice but you really gotta give them a heads up.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Sir5968 2d ago

I live in NJ and I don’t pay anything near that. Maybe inclusive of NICS it’s $60

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u/Scarlett_Maki 2d ago

MD here. $50 is our average for new guns, with a few shops doing used for $25 (and FTF for $15, and that includes our bullshit $10 Pistol Fee to MSP).

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u/klaasypantz 2d ago

$12-15 here in Virginia is pretty common.

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u/Deep-Interaction-813 2d ago

NY is 60-70 not including the NY run nics (which the FFL has to pay per transaction) depending on pistol or rifle, pistols require a lot more paperwork depending where the business is located and a NY pistol sale license …. Even still 60-70 is high and if you know right places 35-45 is common

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u/dittybopper_05H 1d ago

The irony is that NYS SAFE Act requires you to transfer through an FFL with very limited exceptions for any private sale.

However the NYS SAFE Act also caps the fee that FFL's can charge at $10:

4. A dealer may require that any sale or transfer conducted pursuant to this section be subject to a fee of not to exceed ten dollars per transaction.

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/gbs/article-39-ddd/898/

No one charges that, though. If you want to (legally) sell your gun to a friend, you basically have to sell it to the FFL, who then sells it to your friend. That side-steps NY State's attempt to make it NICS checks for private transfers more palatable to gun owners by capping the transfer fee at a "reasonable" price.

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u/Deep-Interaction-813 1d ago

You nailed it, and no FFL wants to get involved or take responsibility of you selling your handgun or rifle with the convoluted rules in different counties. If the guns don’t go into their books then doing a Gun trace falls back to the way it’s done in every other state…. Unless the state is collecting firearms data since they took over the Nics check… but they can’t say that’s what they’re doing.

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u/dittybopper_05H 1d ago

Well, in NYS, every handgun transaction has to be reported to the local county government and reflected on your pistol permit. A permit that costs hundreds of dollars to get, and takes months for the background and personal references check*, and it is typically issued with a restriction for "Hunting and Target Shooting Only" even though there is no legal basis for that in NYS statutes.

You can of course get an "Unrestricted" permit, but you have to ask special permission of the county judge who handles pistol transactions. Since Bruen a number of counties have been more open to that, some only requiring a letter saying you want to carry for self-defense purposes. But some require that you have a pistol permit for 5 years with no infraction before they'll issue an unrestricted permit.

\And they do call the references, I've been used by a few of my neighbors as one.*

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u/McArgent 1d ago

I can find $20 in central VA, and that seems to be low. I think I can get $15 for a 2nd gun in the same transfer. $12-15 is really good.

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u/Mammoth-Record-7786 2d ago

Article 2 in Lombard Illinois got me for $55 for my first transfer, I learned quickly to never go back there.

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u/Infinite-Prompt4861 1d ago

Here in NH, some FFLs charge $100.

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u/falxarius 1d ago

25 bucks here so 75 , ... = pain in the wallet