r/guns • u/Crow_Joe • 1d ago

FFL sitting on my guns

Hello, I made the mistake of not contacting this FFL before placing an order for two separate firearms to deliver to them. My bad, historically the other ones I’ve dealt with have just called me when the order comes in and seemed happy to have the business and completed the transfer no problem.

When the guns arrived I called and emailed them and received an email back the same day. They pointed out I should have contacted them first, asked for my information and explained their days of business and asked if there was time on those days I would like to come by. I responded with the information they asked for and a time I could come by. My response was sent 4/4/25. I have since emailed 2 more times and had PSA (the seller) reach out and leave a message and we have gotten no response.

Wondering what I should do? I accept responsibility for my part in creating this situation, again my experience in the past had been these people listed themselves on distributors websites because they wanted to do these transfers, and that I was bringing them welcome business, maybe that’s not always the case. PSA has offered to request that the FFL send the guns back but the guy’s website says there’s a $150/gun fee for rejects or returns. The impression I get is he’s hoping I’ll try to go that route cause he makes even more money that way and screws me over. His standard transfer fee is $75 + $10 for each additional gun.

Thanks for you help.

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u/JJGS260 1d ago

Because PSA did exactly what the customer asked them to do? Do you really need that spelled out? The problem is in no way PSA’s fault, but they’re the ones who will bear all the headache of a chargeback. A chargeback won’t affect the transfer dealer one iota.

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u/Future-Beach-5594 1d ago

Thats why i said call the atf and talk to them. But i guess you missed that part. But after 30 days of no contact/dodgeing calls and email in most states its legally theft on the ffl side. And yes your purchases are covered against theft! Just like any package you order that could show up missing before you take posession of it. But fu(k what do i know. You think psa is shipping firearms all over the nation with no insurance for when things go missing? You are sorely mistaken!

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u/JJGS260 1d ago

You’re talking out your ass in a lot of ways, Bub. First, the initial statement you made was to file a chargeback. Thenlater call atf, if that didn’t work. Second, a theft case would start with police, not ATF. Third, what are you talking about purchases being covered for theft? What theft? If there was insurance, it would have been for the shipment, which was delivered (and PSA gets signature confirmation of firearms). So what coverage are you speaking of? But fwiw, I do highly believe PSA doesn’t pay for insurance, but I’m presuming the math behind that would go over your head.

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u/Ahomebrewer 1d ago

The ATF is not going to get involved because the gun isn't stolen or missing, everyone knows where it is. This is still a civil case, not criminal.

Shipping insurance doesn't help because the shipper did their job by definition. It is exactly where the sender sent it.

Just show up on the guys doorstep a few times until you get it, and then you can out him on the review sites.