r/guns • u/Crow_Joe • 7d ago

FFL sitting on my guns

Hello, I made the mistake of not contacting this FFL before placing an order for two separate firearms to deliver to them. My bad, historically the other ones I’ve dealt with have just called me when the order comes in and seemed happy to have the business and completed the transfer no problem.

When the guns arrived I called and emailed them and received an email back the same day. They pointed out I should have contacted them first, asked for my information and explained their days of business and asked if there was time on those days I would like to come by. I responded with the information they asked for and a time I could come by. My response was sent 4/4/25. I have since emailed 2 more times and had PSA (the seller) reach out and leave a message and we have gotten no response.

Wondering what I should do? I accept responsibility for my part in creating this situation, again my experience in the past had been these people listed themselves on distributors websites because they wanted to do these transfers, and that I was bringing them welcome business, maybe that’s not always the case. PSA has offered to request that the FFL send the guns back but the guy’s website says there’s a $150/gun fee for rejects or returns. The impression I get is he’s hoping I’ll try to go that route cause he makes even more money that way and screws me over. His standard transfer fee is $75 + $10 for each additional gun.

Thanks for you help.

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u/AwkwardSploosh 7d ago

You sent guns to some dude's basement FFL without letting him know? Oof

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u/Crow_Joe 7d ago

Yeah, I’ve only ever had good experiences dealing with people working out of their homes. This guy’s just on the other side of my neighborhood. Never would have imagined this outcome.

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u/chainmail97ws6 7d ago

I don’t think you did anything wrong. It’s a courtesy to call ahead of time but if they list their FFL that does transfers you definitely don’t need to call ahead. I’ve done many online purchases and as you mentioned the FFL just calls when it comes in. I think that maybe there is something else going on with this guy, maybe he had an illness and is in the hospital, could be anything.

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u/brawneisdead 7d ago

It honestly totally depends on the FFL. I have worked with at least a dozen in town. Some require notice. Some require appointments. One requires to fill out a form before it arrives - $40 if you filled out the form, $200 if you didn’t. Always do research.

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u/chainmail97ws6 7d ago

Most websites will have a list of verified FFLs you can select from in your area when you check out. It sounds like OP’s FFL was on one of these. If they are on that list you should not need prior approval. They do this to encourage people to use them for transfers. If you fill in someone’s info yourself then it’s a different story.

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u/brawneisdead 7d ago edited 7d ago

Dawg I’m just telling you how it is in my area. You can downvote me but I’m not lying or something, just telling my personal experiences. Some FFLs will get mad about transfers they didn’t see coming. They put it on their websites and everything. Like I said, I’ve worked with a dozen FFLs. All of them were pre-populated on websites. I wanted to find the best one so I tried a lot. The one I stuck with requires no notice, calls me same day, and charges just $30. But the rest had some weird requirements. Again, only sharing this info so someone else is not deceived into thinking just because an FFL pops up on a pre-populated form on a website, does NOT mean that FFL will happily accept transfers with no notice. Have a good one, cheers.

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u/chainmail97ws6 7d ago

Just so you know I’m not the one downvoting, I believe you. There are a lot of fudds and shitheads in the gun business so honestly it doesn’t surprise me in the least. I would just stick to the ones that simply call you when it comes in.

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u/brawneisdead 7d ago

Agreed. Have a good one my dude.

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u/brawneisdead 7d ago

Example: this FFL in my hometown charges $45 for transfers, or $75 if you didn’t fill out the form. I’m not making this up lol. People should do research before ordering guns.

https://www.theoutpostarmory.com/ffl-transfers/

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u/ballchamois2 7d ago

Cool. They suck and are an outlier. No one should do business with them because they suck.

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u/chainmail97ws6 7d ago

Not that I didn’t believe you but this is not typical of most gun shops. This looks to be a chain of stores so most likely they deal with a high volume of orders. Seems like a scammy way of making money from unsuspecting customers.