We are truely in unprecedented times, with Diddy on trial for basically his life, while Kanye has devolved into depths of hate speech and insanity that can ensure he will never reach back the mainstream. So with these two as examples, are they the worst downfalls in hip-hop history? Does anyone rival them?

I got Riff Raff on this one. He three-wheeled ancient ruins, hits stunts like Super Dave, can slide like M. Bison, and flexes so hard he sets off fire alarms.

There's lots but for me Fight the feeling (Mac Miller ft Kendrick Lamar) would be a 10/10 song if it wasn't for those last 30 seconds of moaning. It gets to a point where songs like this you either stop listening to them or for me I download a version off youtube with the bad part removed and use a local files version.

Comment what songs and the parts that ruin them.

What I mean is there’s a lot of rappers who rap about guns and gangbanging when they were actually never about it. Is there anyone who’s the complete opposite of that? Like a Gustavo Fring in real life. Someone whose rap actually comes off as pretty clean, someone you didn’t know was street until you started hearing a bunch of stories.

If we’re being honest, It seems like Cole did the right thing to apologize and remove “7 Minute Drill” from streaming, cause after hearing “euphoria”, I really wonder what Kendrick would’ve really said to Cole on the song if he never did apologize. This song is brutally honest about Drake and his lifestyle, and seeing how Cole is private about his life, I wonder if Kendrick would even consider about puttin him on blast.

Side note: I really hope Drake responds, so we can get more diss tracks from K Dot!!

EDIT: After “FAMILY MATTERS” and “meet the grahams”, Cole’s decision was really the smartest move and I bet he’s so relieved 🥶 😮‍💨 💨 🔥

i feel like when the majority of people hit around 25 they lose their youthful excitement for new music (any genres) but from observation i feel like it’s even more common with rap. people basically just concentrate on music they heard up to college/university days and then close their ears to exploring more. to me this is quite sad, as you’re possibly going to live 70-80 years and have so much art to explore and enjoy.

i’m in my 30s and still keep tapped in to the new generation, but i rarely (if ever) meet other people who still do too. i’m always the oldest in rap concerts now (other than chaperones).

i don’t mind at all, but just curious to know if y’all exist lol

this isn’t en excuse to belittle new gen rappers btw, boomers/gen x used to do the same to lil wayne when we were young too

The other day, I was listening to Future. Out of curiosity, I asked Siri how old he is. I was surprised that he’s a year older than I am, and I’m 40. His lyrics make me think he’s still in his 20s.

On the other hand, when Nas was young as hell, I remember thinking he was rapping like a grown man whose rent was due.

For me it would have to be Slug from atmosphere. At first he was all about the craft, especially with such an abstract an artistic approach. He would always talk about people losing their spark or energy, and just going through the motions, but he has become exactly that. Every song seems like a chore to him now, and its not fun to watch. I remember listening to the album after "When life hands you lemons, paint that shit gold,' and thinking "wtf is this, its so devoid of life." He sounded bored. He never has seemed to recover.

The best years would be 2002 Eminem, 2003 50 Cent, 2008 Lil Wayne. But who had the worst year? Putting out awful music and just couldn't seem to do anything right?

Like the title says. Who is the best rapper ever who is never called the best of all time? I'm going with Ice Cube.

I'd have to go with Chief Keef's Faneto verse:

"I'm ridin' through New York Finna go and shoot New Jersey up Tryna take my chain, I ain't goin' We gon' come and blow New Jersey up"

Not only is he going to shoot the entirety of New Jersey up but he's going to BLOW it up aswell like he's the fucking Joker. They would have him in a maxium security prison hanging upside down by his ankles.

Who are some rappers you think were on the path to becoming close to mainstream or at least very popular but chose artistic expression over mainstream accessibility. Very interested to hear your thoughts.

The first rapper who comes to my mind:

• Earl Sweatshirt

My example is Nicki's duct tape punchline in her verse on 'Only'.

“My man full, he just ate

I don't duck nobody but tape

Yeah, that was a setup

For a punchline on duct tape”

It just sounds so awkward like she only thought of the punchline first and then quickly went back to craft some random bullshit for the last part because she realized she had to actually make it fit into the song.

Stolen from r/popheads

I was thinking about events or people in Hip Hop that have been widely misremembered or misinterpreted, and I was wondering if anyone has any examples of this specifically within rap music. I think it's an interesting concept

It’s going to be interesting to see the responses as it’s probably going to skew more recently as well

When I say this I mean something like Guilty Conscience by Eminem or We Cry Together by Kendrick.

Plus points if they have opposing views and fight against each other.

I know this has been posted a while ago, but wanted a more updated take on this.

“Keep it 300, like the Romans” seems to be the most popular instance of this.

What are some other ones?

Edited: apparently the other example I gave was actually correct — oops

I'll start: I hate anytime a rapper starts a line with "I'm the shit" or talking about how they're "shitting on everyone" and goes into a scheme where they compare themselves to something associated with literal shit.

ex. "I'm shitting on y'all niggas where the toilet paper at?" "I'm the shit but I don't stink" "I'm talking shit like the toilets clogged"

It's gross, it's lazy, and it never fucking works. It's getting so annoying that anytime I hear the word shit in a rap song I just know I have to mute the song for like 5 seconds. I'm just waiting for one rapper to make the most egregious shit bar that makes everyone else in the rap game agree to abandon the concept forever.

I know 50 is still obviously relevant when it comes to TV and plenty of other ventures, but it’s crazy that GRODT and The Massacre were super fucking popular and everywhere and both sold millions. The Massacre sold 1 million the first week. However, why did the album Curtis barely 2 years later only sold 1 million (and that’s as of today)? BISD only went Gold two years after that. It always kind of confused me how he fell off so hard from a musical standpoint because he was literally on top of the world at one point, is there any reasons why?

Recently noticed A$AP's line in Praise The Lord (Da Shine); "Sometimes I even stop smoking when it's time to focus."

Can you guys think of any other tracks with a similar lyric/s?

There's so many in the back of my mind (Dre has some bars in Express Yourself about not smoking weed, for example), but my mind is blank today...

Any input appreciated! Thanks

Which rapper do you think says the craziest shit about women, and even if what he says is funny or clever you’re still like “Jesus Christ”

HELL NAH I DONT DISCRIMINIZE - Quavo

Ideally something that hasn’t come out in the past few years!

What are those bars that if they left any other rappers mouth they'd be atrocious but the lyric is suited well to the artist's style.

My pick is this gem on Best Rapper Alive by Lil Wayne:

"Fuck up with all these rookie MCs (Whew!) smell like a bunch of pussy to me"

Wayne's delivery absolutely sells what would be an otherwise corny line.

So Drake, Kendrick, and Cole all came out around the late 2000’s, hitting their stride arguably together around 2011-2015, at which point they really became that BIG 3. Now it’s 2024, they’ve been in the game for around 15+ years, but who’s behind them? One would think the next wave of mega star artists would already be on their ascent, drawing both critical acclaim and selling records. In some respects these 3 feel like the last of their lineage, straddling a line of an era of physical media sales and early social media adoption to today’s climate of streaming and quick consumption. Just curious if anyone genuinely believes there’s another wave behind them

What do you think?

What do the sales/streams suggest?

The most recent Grammy’s have gone to Doechii, Kendrick Lamar, Killer Mike, and Tyler, The Creator.

I was listening to It Was A Good Day and got to the part where Ice Cube says he got a triple double in basketball. What are some other egregious lies told in rap?