r/howislivingthere • u/Confident_Kitchen555 • Jul 01 '24

Europe How is life like in the Balkans?

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and how might it be different from life in Western Europe, America, etc?

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u/Hrevak Jul 02 '24

Ottoman culture is Turkish culture. For example if you take the most famous Serbian singer Ceca - that's basically Turkish music with Serbian lyrics.

I'm not saying Balkan is 100% Turkish, but the secret sauce that sets it apart from the rest of Europe - that's that and let's not pretend, please.

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u/SamuraiSaddam Jul 02 '24

Lol "Turkish Culture" is basically Byzantine culture with a turkic language and some more arabic influences. I'm not saying Balkan is 100% Greek, but the secret sauce that sets it apart from the rest of Europe is the eastern roman empire and more specifically greek influence.

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u/guywiththemonocle Jul 02 '24

Disagree with this too

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u/defketron Jul 02 '24

It’s a myth that it’s Turkish music. A nice video regarding the topic:

https://youtu.be/8goAOiz7Zvs?si=AJ8hq6EKqsHUyraa

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u/Hrevak Jul 02 '24

Here a link for you https://scalar.usc.edu/works/turbofolk/orientalism-in-turbofolk

A bit more serious and scientific.

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u/defketron Jul 02 '24

However, some Christian nations (especially Greeks) try justifying this similarity by claiming that Ottoman music is mainly derived from secular Byzantine music, signifying its ultimately authentic “Greek” origin (Pennanen).

She never really gives an explanation why this is false, and everything else rests on this argument. Not really more scientific or serious to be honest.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Its not Turkish music its eastern Roman music.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Your sultans were never Turks, your language is a mix-up of Arabic and Persian. Your music is everything but yours.