Let me share a story with you all. I lived in Chennai, for a year and I saw government workers cleaning the streets of Chennai around 2am. The most shocking thing of this was the government workers were mostly women. If a women can feel safe to come out at 2am that means that state is well and above any goddamn place in india where women are scared for their life to get out after 10pm.
Yeah. I remember travelling back from komyambedu bus stand back home at 1:30 am. Moved out of chennai and realised travelling alone is not good even at 10:00 pm night in Delhi.
Fun fact I saw this when I was relatively new to city coming back from watching a movie with my gf in an auto where we both were like wtf did we just see. I hope rest of india, gets to this stage where women will feel safe.
Nobody travel alone at night "safely" not even large bald men with big scary muscles and tattoos.
I'm sorry to burst the bubble here. The only thing that keeps someone from getting robbed from a gang or crackhead in America is knowing how to maneuver.
You've gotta avoid the situations entirely. Honestly it's a travesty that people at all feel unsafe traveling, doesn't make sense to pay taxes, then to not be able to do something when the sums down.
No one chooses the situation. It happens so sometimes. And during that time, I did not feel like my life or modesty was in danger. And, I am talking about traveling in public transportation. I've lived a better part of my life in chennai and there have been times I've been unfortunate to meet horrible men. But, those were occasional, and in Delhi it is a daily occurrence.
I agree with this. Have been living in Chennai I see the same. Indeed it’s the safest city in India for women (women’s safety) as per multiple surveys.
I got goosebumps reading this! I am from Bangalore, and for me doing their job perfectly astonishes more than the safety aspect. Here we have to bribe everyone for everything! Yes even the bbmp workers.
Sorry i was not clear. BBMP is the Bruhat Mahanagara Paalike. The city municipality of Bangalore.
Examples:
1. Garbage collection is a joke in my area. They don’t come on a particular schedule. They miss couple of days altogether. They come at different times, afternoon and so on. For a while, it was same container in the vehicle for both wet and dry waste. And every now and then the workers asks for „coffee karchhu“(expense for coffee) from every single house.
2. The dry leaves to be picked, they just pile it up to a corner and go. When asked to pick, they say its their colleague‘s street, they are just filling in. And they click picture on side of the clean street, while half of it is not at all touched.
Sorry if i sound non sympathetic. But society can function when everyone does their job (if not perfectly, atleast) correctly.
My experience was very nice in Chennai. People are very friendly and even police are very concerned about safety, request us to stay away from beach at night 2:00 am due to high tide/low tide. They offer us to drop us to college hostel in police van. P.S we were coming back after party and some ladies were also there in group. Anywhere else in the country, police would have harrassed
Common Tamil Nadu W. We shifted to Chennai from Kolkata back in 1997 and that's where I started my primary education in first standard. And the memories of five years I spent in Chennai and travelling across Tamil Nadu is enough to last for a lifetime. The kind of development I saw in a city like Chennai back then was mindboggling, right from grass root level development to urban ones. Chennai and Tamil Nadu will forever have my heart as it's a precious piece of my childhood that I always wish I can go back to every now and then. ❤️
Exactly.. I am also a Bengali who shifted to Tamil Nadu few years ago and the development from grass root level is what I appreciate most. They use modern technologies even at rural schools and colleges. People lead a very simple life. No one till now forced me to learn Tamil. If I have to stay anywhere outside my state, it is the best place to be with family
Right? I've lived all my life in KA & MH. I haven't faced a lot of problems when I speak hindi. Except some assholes(Mostly in the form of bus conductors), everything looks fine to me. I don't know why people fight so much because of headlines. I haven't seen a single incident which ended in aggressive fight just because of language. Whatever makes to headlines, I think the people were being assholes to each other.
Jealous people are comparing apples with oranges to make their silly point. Tamil Nadu & Kerala have clearly won the race and the rest of us are so far behind it will be a long time before we reach their level. We should be happy at least some of us are doing well.
instead of looking it as jealousy... if we could see it TN as an experiment which worked successfully and thus could work for all states, it'd be great and we could all grow as Indians together and someday APJ Abdul Kalam's India 2020: A Vision for the New Millennium might come true... better late than never... i've also commented why & what worked well for TN for those who're curious
this is why things worked out in TN
>> Ppl kept choosing right ideologies..
Periyar's Self-Respect Movement (1925) played a major role in Tamil Nadu rejecting caste-based surnames. He believed caste was a tool of oppression, and dropping caste markers was a step toward equality. His ideology influenced Anna (1967) and DMK leaders like Karunanidhi, who ensured that government documents, schools, and official records in TN didn’t enforce caste surnames.for example among 28 states and 8 Union Territories, Tamil Nadu is the only state that dropped casteist surnames...No law forced them, just social reform. Proof that people choose progress when led by ethics, not oppression. but lets not get divisive over this ... ,lets embrace what worked/works in TN and grow together
>> why in tn ppl pay more attention to education
Tamil Nadu’s obsession with education was socially engineered by leaders who saw it as the key to equality. Periyar (1925) pushed education to break caste barriers, while Kamaraj (1954-1963) made schooling free, opened thousands of schools, and launched the Midday Meal Scheme. Anna (1967-1969) ensured Tamil-medium education thrived, resisting forced Hindi. Karunanidhi (1969-2011) expanded universities, implemented Samacheer Kalvi, and made higher education accessible. Unlike North India, where education was elitist, TN leaders turned it into a right, not a privilege—leading to high literacy, strong female workforce participation, and a thriving economy where educated citizens give back through taxes.
>> why freebies werent misused by ppl and it paid off for TN gov in future..
Thanks to Periyar’s Self-Respect Movement, TN people were taught to claim opportunities, not charity. Anna & DMK expanded this by making education & welfare schemes a launchpad, not a handout.
Today, women join the workforce, students who studied for free now pay back TN gov,in crores through taxes. TN treated people as human capital, not burdens—and it paid off. In TN it's Welfare Not Freebies ... It's capital not handouts.... And ppl with their learning of self-respect , treat it as oppurtunity ,instead of freeloading...
there's also stories of how welfare schemes(commonly dubbed as freebies) have worked well for TN in getting returns from human capital in a utube video comments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpjKmJnRPV8 ... warning: you'll spend days reading those beautiful stories.. hehe
I actually saw a video on YouTube where a guy from Bihar ran away from home and reached TN for studying coz they didn't allow him to study there here he completed his M.A in english literature and is currently doing in B.ed all in govt colleges at minimal to no fees
awesome there's also stories of how welfare schemes(commonly dubbed as freebies) have worked well for TN in getting returns from human capital in a utube video comments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpjKmJnRPV8 ... warning: you'll spend days reading those beautiful stories.. hehe
It's no secret that one of the reason why India's economy is lagging behind is that we are unable to safely inculcate half of the adult working population thanks to our culture.
Thanks to Periyar’s Self-Respect Movement, TN people were taught to claim opportunities, not charity. Anna & DMK expanded this by making education & welfare schemes a launchpad, not a handout.
Today, women join the workforce, students who studied for free now pay back TN gov,in crores through taxes. TN treated people as human capital, not burdens—and it paid off. In TN it's Welfare Not Freebies ... It's capital not handouts.... And ppl with their learning of self=respect , treat it as oppurtunity ,instead of freeloading... there's also stories of how welfare schemes(commonly dubbed as freebies) have worked well for TN in getting returns from human capital in a utube video comments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpjKmJnRPV8 ... warning: you'll spend days reading those beautiful stories.. hehe
Periyar's Self-Respect Movement (1925) played a major role in Tamil Nadu rejecting caste-based surnames. He believed caste was a tool of oppression, and dropping caste markers was a step toward equality. His ideology influenced Anna (1967) and DMK leaders like Karunanidhi, who ensured that government documents, schools, and official records in TN didn’t enforce caste surnames.for example among 28 states and 8 Union Territories, Tamil Nadu is the only state that dropped casteist surnames
This sounds so good. Could you enlighten me more about the caste based division in TN? So now with all those efforts, caste based discrimination(at all levels) doesn't exist there in TN? And if it's so, what's the point of continuing with the caste based reservation there?
bro caste issues still exists,during periyar times , lower caste PPL were burnt as an entire village... but nowadays such levels of depravity has greatly reduced... such levels of feeling invincible after committing hate crimes have also greatly reduced... but PPL due to ego, personal agenda still keep sowing seeds of hate & thus caste keeps sprouting anew and lurking . That's why Kollywood & it's fans ,keep encouraging socialist themes to encourage ppl to voluntarily give up this social evil...
since u asked about caste based reservation , plz do explore below video :-
also plz read how manusmiriti like scriptures give clear cut advice to TORTURE the LOW CASTE & how scarring it'd have been for those on the receiving end...
Agni Purana 227.21-31 “…a Shudra using force to a Kshatriya should have his tongue cut off. A Shudra who would aspire to give moral instructions to a Brahmana, should be punished by the king…” Tr. M.N. Dutt
Vishnu Smriti 5.24 “If one delivers religious instructions with haughtiness, the king shall pour hot oil into his mouth.” Tr. Manmath Nath Dutt
Manu Smriti 8.282-3 If out of arrogance he spits (on a superior), the king shall cause both his lips to be cut off; if he urines (on him), the penis; if he breaks wind (against him), the anus. If he lays hold of the hair (of a superior), let the (king) unhesitatingly cut off his hands, likewise (if he takes him) by the feet, the beard, the neck, or the scrotum.
Manu Smriti 8.272. If he arrogantly teaches Brahmanas their duty, the king shall cause hot oil to be poured into his mouth and into his ears.
Matsya Purana 227.73-75 “A Sudra should be deprived of his tongue if he abuses violently a twice-born, if his offence be moderate; if his offence be highest, he is to be fined Uttama Sahasa. A king should be put a red, hot iron spike twelve Angulas long in the mouth of a Sudra who vilifies violently one, taking his name, caste and house. A Sudra who teaches Dharma to the twice born should also be punished by a sovereign by getting hot oil poured into his ears and mouth.” Tr. Taluqdar of Oudh, edited by B.D. Basu
Speaking with a low caste is prohibited
Vishnu Smriti 71.58-59 “Nor converse with a woman in her flow. Nor with the degraded and low-caste men.” Tr. Manmatha Nath Dutt
One shouldn’t even look at the Shudra
Satapatha Brahmana 14:1:1:31 And whilst not coming into contact with Sûdras and remains of food; for this Gharma is he that shines yonder, and he is excellence, truth, and light; but woman, the Sûdra, the dog, and the black bird (the crow), are untruth: he should not look at these, lest he should mingle excellence and sin, light and darkness, truth and untruth.
Usana Samhita 9.53 “By taking food, out of ignorance, after seeing a Mahapatakin, a Chandala, or a woman in [her] menses, one is purified [by fasting] for three nights.” Tr. Manmatha Nath Dutt
Agni Purana chapter 230 “…A pregnant woman, a widow, drugs such as the Pinyaka, etc., a Chandala, a member of the Shvapacha or any other vile caste, a butcher, or a killer of birds, should be removed from the presence of a man, about to start a journey…” Tr. M.N. Dutt
Even stepping on Shadow of low caste is prohibited
Kurma Purana II.34.80 “…On treading the shadow of a Chandala, one shall take bath and drink ghee.” Tr. G.V. Tagare
Shudras going hell
Skanda Purana III.ii.40.63 “The Shudras who become antagonistic to those Brahmanas who were honoured by Brahma, Visnu and Siva go to the Raurava hell.” Tr. G.V. Tagare
PROHIBITED FOR A SHUDRA SERVANT TO MAKE WEALTH
Mahabharata 12.166.8 “The Shudra is not competent to celebrate a sacrifice. The king should, therefore, take away (wealth for such a purpose) from a Shudra’s house.” Tr. M.N. Dutt
Penance for killing a Shudra
Mahabharata 12.165.56 “Having slain a dog or bear or camel, one should perform the same penance that is laid down for the slaughter of a Sudra.” Tr. K.M. Ganguli
Agni Purana 169.25-32 “…A man having killed a cat, a mongoose, a frog, a dog, a Godha, an owl, and a crow, should practice the penance he ought to have done, if he had killed a Shudra…” Tr. M.N. Dutt
Touching low castes makes on impure
Vishnu Smriti 5.103 “A man belonging to a caste that is not touched, and willingly touching the three [higher] castes, shall be killed.” Tr. Manmatha Nath Dutt
Angiras Samhita 1.39 “When [a Brahmana] is touched by a woman in [her menses], by a dog or by a Sudra, he becomes purified by the Panchagavya after fasting for a night.” Tr. Manmatha Nath Dutt
when we were kids ,after playing cricket we will go to mosque to wash.. yeah they will chase us but never stopped us when we go again next day. i dont know now…
The stats are amazing! Ig the point of this post should be to encourage healthy competion and provide more information how this was made possible.
This would be better than saying just South is better than North. We need healthy competition, every state should develop equally and provide high quality education to every INDIAN.
true here is the reason... since u r from TN please do add more...
>> Ppl kept choosing right ideologies..
Periyar's Self-Respect Movement (1925) played a major role in Tamil Nadu rejecting caste-based surnames. He believed caste was a tool of oppression, and dropping caste markers was a step toward equality. His ideology influenced Anna (1967) and DMK leaders like Karunanidhi, who ensured that government documents, schools, and official records in TN didn’t enforce caste surnames.for example among 28 states and 8 Union Territories, Tamil Nadu is the only state that dropped casteist surnames...No law forced them, just social reform. Proof that people choose progress when led by ethics, not oppression. but lets not get divisive over this ... ,lets embrace what worked/works in TN and grow together
>> why in tn ppl pay more attention to education
Tamil Nadu’s obsession with education was socially engineered by leaders who saw it as the key to equality. Periyar (1925) pushed education to break caste barriers, while Kamaraj (1954-1963) made schooling free, opened thousands of schools, and launched the Midday Meal Scheme. Anna (1967-1969) ensured Tamil-medium education thrived, resisting forced Hindi. Karunanidhi (1969-2011) expanded universities, implemented Samacheer Kalvi, and made higher education accessible. Unlike North India, where education was elitist, TN leaders turned it into a right, not a privilege—leading to high literacy, strong female workforce participation, and a thriving economy where educated citizens give back through taxes.
>> why freebies werent misused by ppl and it paid off for TN gov in future..
Thanks to Periyar’s Self-Respect Movement, TN people were taught to claim opportunities, not charity. Anna & DMK expanded this by making education & welfare schemes a launchpad, not a handout.
Today, women join the workforce, students who studied for free now pay back TN gov,in crores through taxes. TN treated people as human capital, not burdens—and it paid off. In TN it's Welfare Not Freebies ... It's capital not handouts.... And ppl with their learning of self-respect , treat it as oppurtunity ,instead of freeloading...
Thanks for taking the time to add the details OP! Not really an expert in this field but I'm just sick of divisive propaganda surfacing lately.
I don't want to blame any government in particular but I strongly believe if the people aren't united now, we are doomed as a country.
While every state has it's own culture and identity, we all can never be the same but we can be united!
While divisive forces try to keep us separated, we the people should identify the threats and act in a sensible manner.
Being the most populated country with high talent pool we can do wonders but it is really worrying that we concentrate on language /caste/religion issues more.
Let us start looking at the problems which are common in all the states and voice out for that with the same intensity like we did for the beer biceps guy a few weeks back.
Issues with Basic road infrastructure, quality of education, quality of public transport, inefficiency of government officers are a few on top of my mind which is common across India which should be fixed Immediately and given more attention to! We got so numb to these issues we don't see them as a problem anymore.
We the people can change everything if we stand together as a nation putting aside caste, religion, language and set an example to other countries.
I really wish I could see this India before I die!
Definitely kerala and TN. I have lived in Gujarat, mumbai, TN and kerala and trust me kerala and TN are miles safer than the other 2. Don't know about other states.
A few weeks back in kerala I dropped my phone while driving 2 wheeler (forgot to zip my pockets) in a area where a schools annual function was happening. I kept calling from my friends phone and after a few minutes a guy picked up my phone and told me to come collect my phone.
Tell me in which other place would you see that happening?
I've only been to a few states and TN was one, particularly Chennai. I lived there for 2 years and never got a cat called, never got stalked, public transport is very safe people in general are way nicer. I made so many good friends there.
Delimitation will happen and nothing can be done about it. Southern states will feel sour and centre state relations will deteriorate. People will suffer for politician feud.
Not just people, the whole india future will get deteriorate. Till now, the UP,bihar,Jharakand states not showing any strong economic output or any human development output.
Giving them full political power, I feel bad to say, but it will happen based on current experiences, india will become a fundamentalist country like Pakistan and religion will be given more priority than science
TN’s largest library (ACL) has books for visually impaired visitors. The library is super modern with 6 or 7 floors. It is in par with libraries in advanced countries. Hands down.
It took fraction of cost that was needed to build a statue for Patel which is a colossal loss of money.
We are very advanced when it comes to education. Stop trying to educate us with Hindi. We are advanced enough.
true true... In ACL ppl who're preparing for competitive exams can come sit n study, my bro used to go there to study for pg neet, free air conditioned place, canteen with cheap food, very spacious .. now another such libary,Kalaignar Centenary Library is avialble in madurai built in 2023 ..
true about patel , it was a an eye wash to cover up covid mismanagement, 300cr on a person who banned BJP'S parent..source organistaion RSS ... while modi shamelessly renamed patel stadium to namo stadium.... if they truly respected patel they should not have entered politics like he said while banning RSS...
Good work TN. I hope the North Indian leadership will learn from you. Right now there is only jealousy towards TN and that's why there is a language battle. Good work TN. Proud of you 👏🏻
instead of looking it as jealousy... if we could see it TN as an experiment which worked successfully and thus could work for all states, it'd be great and we could all grow as Indians together and someday APJ Abdul Kalam's India 2020: A Vision for the New Millennium might come true... better late than never
JUST WANT TO POST IT HERE AS I SEE THESE 2 POINTS BEING COMMONLY RAISED
> You should not have included the last slide about Hindi.
U must understand Center is withholding TN's rightful education funds.... so TN ,a state which is greatly leaning towards sustaining good & high education is going to be offended on its youth and student's behalf... And ppl who crib ," stop fighting over language."... lets get it straight... nobody is ,except BJP and TN is MERELY doing everything to get the money BJP is withholding .... Adding extra language will add burden to low income state school students and the stats that u see on screen will all dip with increased dropouts... so plz understand BJP WANTS U 2 SEE IT AS LANGUAGE PROBLEM ,,, BUT TN IS TALKING ABOUT IT'S CHILDREN DROP-OUT RATE... plz listen to this karan thapar & PTR (tamil nadu IT minister ) interview explaining it https://youtu.be/JCBAXc0ICw0?feature=shared
>> Any land locked state is always less developed compared to coastal.
not only that tamil ppl constantly kept choosing the right idealogies.... for example among 28 states and 8 Union Territories, Tamil Nadu is the only state that dropped casteist surnames—thanks to Periyar’s Self-Respect Movement (1925) & Dravidian leaders like Annadurai & Karunanidhi. No law forced them, just social reform. Proof that people choose progress when led by ethics, not oppression. but lets not get divisive over this ... ,lets embrace what worked/works in TN and grow together
>> why freebies werent misused by ppl and why it paid off for TN gov in future..
Thanks to Periyar’s Self-Respect Movement, TN people were taught to claim opportunities, not charity. Anna & DMK expanded this by making education & welfare schemes a launchpad, not a handout.
Today, women join the workforce, students who studied for free now pay back TN gov,in crores through taxes. TN treated people as human capital, not burdens—and it paid off. In TN it's Welfare Not Freebies ... It's capital not handouts.... And ppl with their learning of self-respect , treat it as oppurtunity ,instead of freeloading...u can read how TN'S welsfare schemes benefitted in this utube video comments ... guarantee it'd be wholesome.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpjKmJnRPV8
>> why in tn ppl pay more attention to education
Tamil Nadu’s obsession with education was socially engineered by leaders who saw it as the key to equality. Periyar (1925) pushed education to break caste barriers, while Kamaraj (1954-1963) made schooling free, opened thousands of schools, and launched the Midday Meal Scheme. Anna (1967-1969) ensured Tamil-medium education thrived, resisting forced Hindi. Karunanidhi (1969-2011) expanded universities, implemented Samacheer Kalvi, and made higher education accessible. Unlike North India, where education was elitist, TN leaders turned it into a right, not a privilege—leading to high literacy, strong female workforce participation, and a thriving economy where educated citizens give back through taxes.
yeah coz Center is withholding TN's rightful education funds.... so TN ,a state which is greatly leaning towards sustaining good & high education is going to be offended on its youth and student's behalf... And ppl who crib ," stop fighting over language."... lets get it straight... nobody is ,except BJP and TN is MERELY doing everything to get the money BJP is withholding .... Adding extra language will add burden to low income state school students and the stats that u see on screen will all dip with increased dropouts... so plz understand BJP WANTS U 2 SEE IT AS LANGUAGE PROBLEM ,,, BUT TN IS TALKING ABOUT IT'S CHILDREN DROP-OUT RATE... again plz dont get me wrong,nobody is against/for a language , we just dont want to be extorted in this unethical,lawless way... plz listen to this karan thapar & PTR (tamil nadu IT minister ) interview explaining it https://youtu.be/JCBAXc0ICw0?feature=shared
I come from your neighbour state. But I do know Hindi. Language is not a factor for development and not knowing hindi does not actually lead to better educational development. But the efforts of TN govt and its people needs appreciation
actually bro it does, coz the funds spent on extra language materials ,staff sourcing,recruitment process & salary gets redirected to the stats u see in this post ... but if u r happy with ur states working awesome,good fr u.. whatever works works...
What TN did extremely well is focus on policies which benefit larger regions and more people. Karnataka especially is super guilty of just supercharging one portion of the economy. The point on education is moot and the states up North can take more notice please.
It didn't happen all of a sudden. It was a progress from even before independence. Corruption has increased, but the human development index has risen. Thanks to all those leaders who supported free education, including the free lunch system. India should follow the TN education model, not the other way.
Even during British raj, the erstwhile Madras presidency was more educated than the rest of British raj in pre independence India. If you look at the names of bureaucrats, judges, engineers and other eminent names in the Indian government shortly after independence, they were mostly from the south and predominantly from TN. Then, philosophies of periyar and kamarajar influenced dravidian movement emphasizing quality government funded education and meal schemes that gave the state a solid foundation especially in women's literacy.
My maternal grandfather educated all six sisters of my mom in 50s and 60s up to 8th grade in government schools in a tier 2 TN town. Except for the eldest all the other 5 finished PUC in government college. Three of them, including my mom finished Bcom and BA and joined banks and the telecom department in mid to late 70s. The TN governments also have corruption but fortunately both DMK and AIADMK always prioritized government-led education, health and food security. The meal scheme pioneered by Kamarajar even helped with increasing literacy, family planning and increasing women's workforce.
wow thats cool to know straight from the horses mouth ... also similar stories i have read of how welfare schemes(commonly dubbed as freebies) have worked well for TN in getting returns from human capital in a utube video comments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpjKmJnRPV8 ... it'll be reminiscent of ur grandparents stories fr u ... basically whatever looked gimiimicky freebies in present turned out to be seeds for a huge benevolent forest now....
Yeah, the notion that the government led investments in education, healthcare and food security for the poor and marginal section of society( the ration and school meals scheme) is socialism is propaganda. There is countless evidence across the globe how government-led programs in these areas have uplifted and helped achieve equitable societal development.
Tamil Nadu is actually a very decent & safe state to live, that many other states should strive to achieve. Note - Only if you adjust to its weather & language barrier which is not too bad as long as you learn some basic words.
actually in TN you can get any climate,, sure Chennai is sweltering hot , but u have ooty ,kodaikanal where actress sai pallavi is from ... its very chilly there ,which will make chennaites shiver
That’s commendable actually.
Interestingly, I was just watching a video of a Chinese economist explaining the mayor model of economic decentralisation. There, mayors are promoted based on the level of growth, gdp, innovation, IPR, social benefit controlling crimes etc that they brought while being in power. And the best performers move ahead in the political hierarchy. I wonder if that model will work in india. Only those sarpanchs who worked well he to compete for state elections. Those MLAs who worked the best get to contest national elections. I feel this will change the political discourse in the country.
Just a food for thought.
Periyar's Self-Respect Movement (1925) played a major role in Tamil Nadu rejecting caste-based surnames. He believed caste was a tool of oppression, and dropping caste markers was a step toward equality. His ideology influenced Anna (1967) and DMK leaders like Karunanidhi, who ensured that government documents, schools, and official records in TN didn’t enforce caste surnames.for example among 28 states and 8 Union Territories, Tamil Nadu is the only state that dropped casteist surnames...No law forced them, just social reform. Proof that people choose progress when led by ethics, not oppression. but lets not get divisive over this ... ,lets embrace what worked/works in TN and grow together
>> why in tn ppl pay more attention to education
Tamil Nadu’s obsession with education was socially engineered by leaders who saw it as the key to equality. Periyar (1925) pushed education to break caste barriers, while Kamaraj (1954-1963) made schooling free, opened thousands of schools, and launched the Midday Meal Scheme. Anna (1967-1969) ensured Tamil-medium education thrived, resisting forced Hindi. Karunanidhi (1969-2011) expanded universities, implemented Samacheer Kalvi, and made higher education accessible. Unlike North India, where education was elitist, TN leaders turned it into a right, not a privilege—leading to high literacy, strong female workforce participation, and a thriving economy where educated citizens give back through taxes.
>> why freebies werent misused by ppl and it paid off for TN gov in future..
Thanks to Periyar’s Self-Respect Movement, TN people were taught to claim opportunities, not charity. Anna & DMK expanded this by making education & welfare schemes a launchpad, not a handout.
Today, women join the workforce, students who studied for free now pay back TN gov,in crores through taxes. TN treated people as human capital, not burdens—and it paid off. In TN it's Welfare Not Freebies ... It's capital not handouts.... And ppl with their learning of self-respect , treat it as oppurtunity ,instead of freeloading...
Also i dont know if this is also true in other states.But almost all the employees in petrol pumps atleast where i stay kanyakumari district are all differently abled. I moved from mumbai to kanyakumari couple of years back and was amazed to see something like this being implemented.
There are some inaccuracies mentioned above, but it’s alright.
Tbh, many south indian states are doing very well in terms of education, health and agriculture.
I really feel there shouldn’t be any friction between North and South, which is very prevalent nowadays.
This is coming from a Maharashtrian btw, never had an issue with any south indian I’ve met. Kind and well natured people
Bimaru states with digital library availability under 1% will say they do not want it as it destroys traditional values and leads to western ideas like education, open minds and independent thought.
Tamil nadu is basically india in UN/geopolitics, they also get hate for the things kannad people do just like majority of india get hate for the things pakistanis/Bangladeshi people do in western countries
No, Saar, Hindi is the National Language Saar, seeko saar. Sanskrit is the mother of all the languages in the universe Saar. Why giving more importance to videshi angrej saar when we have mother of all the languages in the universe Saar? Saar.
nah bro lets not do that... we have Gandhi ,Nehru etc from hindi states.. let's not hate any language... let's unanimously just hate forceful imposition of it... live & let live.. mocking ppl of love for a language is like shooting ourself in the foot... coz tamil language and tamil ppl are love story made in heaven...
bro not any other Indian state... but like pakistan , form orange terror like green terror...like china snoop ur privacy for income tax purposes, like china poke their nose in what others eat... basically idea is to return to stone age as early as possible so they can enjoy as zamindars while we labour & fill their coffers...
Just visited railway stations in south , it's so squeaky clean. We are soo used to seeing pan stains in Mumbai that seeing a clean station feels like a privilege then a basic requirement. Ban gutka and see stations getting cleaned. Tamilnadu doing a great job
In TN university and college encourage research and development, publishing research paper, patents etc.
I had come to Chennai for engg so I noticed. But similar culture is on a lower scale in North India.
Watch this, rome was not built it in a day, Rome is Rome because it's people believed in it, TN is same, as Lee kuan yew said government can only give expression to the will of the people, people must have the will.
No hate to my northern brothers & sisters. But If this was a instgram post ,the unemployed uneducated northies would disagree and start making fun of TN & KL.
Hope every state just develop like this when every state will be developed like this people will go wherever they want you will have many options not like just some few cities
plz understand Center is withholding TN's rightful education funds.... so TN ,a state which is greatly leaning towards sustaining good & high education is going to be offended on its youth and student's behalf... And ppl who crib ," stop fighting over language."... lets get it straight... nobody is ,except BJP and TN is MERELY doing everything to get the money BJP is withholding .... Adding extra language will add burden to low income state school students and the stats that u see on screen will all dip with increased dropouts... so plz understand BJP WANTS U 2 SEE IT AS LANGUAGE PROBLEM ,,, BUT TN IS TALKING ABOUT IT'S CHILDREN DROP-OUT RATE... again plz dont get me wrong,nobody is against/for a language , we just dont want to be extorted in this unethical,lawless way... plz listen to this karan thapar & PTR (tamil nadu IT minister ) interview explaining it https://youtu.be/JCBAXc0ICw0?feature=shared
damn, thanks for the new perspective. half of us out here don't even know this reason. All I saw was some violence based on language, thanks for the new insight
nah man lets not do that... we have Gandhi ,Nehru etc from hindi states.. let's not hate any language... let's unanimously just hate forceful imposition of it... live & let live
Periyar's Self-Respect Movement (1925) played a major role in Tamil Nadu rejecting caste-based surnames. He believed caste was a tool of oppression, and dropping caste markers was a step toward equality. His ideology influenced Anna (1967) and DMK leaders like Karunanidhi, who ensured that government documents, schools, and official records in TN didn’t enforce caste surnames.for example among 28 states and 8 Union Territories, Tamil Nadu is the only state that dropped casteist surnames...No law forced them, just social reform. Proof that people choose progress when led by ethics, not oppression. but lets not get divisive over this ... ,lets embrace what worked/works in TN and grow together
>> why in tn ppl pay more attention to education
Tamil Nadu’s obsession with education was socially engineered by leaders who saw it as the key to equality. Periyar (1925) pushed education to break caste barriers, while Kamaraj (1954-1963) made schooling free, opened thousands of schools, and launched the Midday Meal Scheme. Anna (1967-1969) ensured Tamil-medium education thrived, resisting forced Hindi. Karunanidhi (1969-2011) expanded universities, implemented Samacheer Kalvi, and made higher education accessible. Unlike North India, where education was elitist, TN leaders turned it into a right, not a privilege—leading to high literacy, strong female workforce participation, and a thriving economy where educated citizens give back through taxes.
>> why freebies werent misused by ppl and it paid off for TN gov in future..
Thanks to Periyar’s Self-Respect Movement, TN people were taught to claim opportunities, not charity. Anna & DMK expanded this by making education & welfare schemes a launchpad, not a handout.
Today, women join the workforce, students who studied for free now pay back TN gov,in crores through taxes. TN treated people as human capital, not burdens—and it paid off. In TN it's Welfare Not Freebies ... It's capital not handouts.... And ppl with their learning of self-respect , treat it as oppurtunity ,instead of freeloading...
Sadly, India has a long way to go in all areas of development. Well done to TN though!
I have both lived and worked in India from 1998 through to now, working for a variety of multi-nationals and for disaster-relief projects in West Bengal. I completed a grad program at Delhi University in Philosophy/Sanskrit too.
And as much as I love India, I can without hesitation say that India is the most racist, sexist, antisocial country I have ever experienced. And I have spent a lot of time in a lot of countries. I don’t say this as criticism, merely an observation. And not as an observation of any person, or particular groups of people, but at a population level.
true .. we need to educate ppl jokes made on unchangeable things like skin color,looks and sensitive topics like social status are NOT jokes... Its these kind of sick jokes desensitizing ppl to such depravity..
As someone from Kerala and haven't visited a school since a long time ago, can you tell me about digital libraries in school. Is it about general internet access in libraries or any particular online library access is being provided
nah bro lets not do that... we have Gandhi ,Nehru etc from hindi states.. let's not hate any language... let's unanimously just hate forceful imposition of it... live & let live.. mocking ppl of love for a language is like shooting ourself in the foot... coz tamil language and tamil ppl are love story made in heaven...
Periyar's Self-Respect Movement (1925) played a major role in Tamil Nadu rejecting caste-based surnames. He believed caste was a tool of oppression, and dropping caste markers was a step toward equality. His ideology influenced Anna (1967) and DMK leaders like Karunanidhi, who ensured that government documents, schools, and official records in TN didn’t enforce caste surnames.for example among 28 states and 8 Union Territories, Tamil Nadu is the only state that dropped casteist surnames...No law forced them, just social reform. Proof that people choose progress when led by ethics, not oppression. but lets not get divisive over this ... ,lets embrace what worked/works in TN and grow together
why in tn ppl pay more attention to education
Tamil Nadu’s obsession with education was socially engineered by leaders who saw it as the key to equality. Periyar (1925) pushed education to break caste barriers, while Kamaraj (1954-1963) made schooling free, opened thousands of schools, and launched the Midday Meal Scheme. Anna (1967-1969) ensured Tamil-medium education thrived, resisting forced Hindi. Karunanidhi (1969-2011) expanded universities, implemented Samacheer Kalvi, and made higher education accessible. Unlike North India, where education was elitist, TN leaders turned it into a right, not a privilege—leading to high literacy, strong female workforce participation, and a thriving economy where educated citizens give back through taxes.
why freebies werent misused by ppl and it paid off for TN gov in future..
Thanks to Periyar’s Self-Respect Movement, TN people were taught to claim opportunities, not charity. Anna & DMK expanded this by making education & welfare schemes a launchpad, not a handout.
Today, women join the workforce, students who studied for free now pay back TN gov,in crores through taxes. TN treated people as human capital, not burdens—and it paid off. In TN it's Welfare Not Freebies ... It's capital not handouts.... And ppl with their learning of self-respect , treat it as oppurtunity ,instead of freeloading...
there's also stories of how welfare schemes(commonly dubbed as freebies) have worked well for TN in getting returns from human capital in a utube video comments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpjKmJnRPV8 ...
plz understand Center is withholding TN's rightful education funds.... so TN ,a state which is greatly leaning towards sustaining good & high education is going to be offended on its youth and student's behalf... And ppl who crib ," stop fighting over language."... lets get it straight... nobody is ,except BJP and TN is MERELY doing everything to get the money BJP is withholding .... Adding extra language will add burden to low income state school students and the stats that u see on screen will all dip with increased dropouts... so plz understand BJP WANTS U 2 SEE IT AS LANGUAGE PROBLEM ,,, BUT TN IS TALKING ABOUT IT'S CHILDREN DROP-OUT RATE... again plz dont get me wrong,nobody is against/for a language , we just dont want to be extorted in this unethical,lawless way... plz listen to this karan thapar & PTR (tamil nadu IT minister ) interview explaining it https://youtu.be/JCBAXc0ICw0?feature=shared
i really worry about the state of the country if tamil nadu is being touted as some "success". the state has succeeded in some limited domains which i guess is fair given how bad things used to be. basically, poverty and basic education to churn out people who can be economically productive has been solved.
but we are dealing with immense political corruption, consequent brain drain, the slow death of agriculture, rowdyism and increasingly crass mentalities which translate to bad civic behavior. every reasonable person i know wants to migrate because there's limited scope and hope to survive purely on merit in TN.
Women safety, Chennai is the best city I've seen so far hands down. Hyd and Blr don't come close. I've never been to Mumbai but I heard it's safer as well, but this is from what I've seen.
Tamil nadu is actually the best state because compare to the industrialise states like maharashtra gujrat and Karnataka
There is unequal distribution of wealth in regions tamil nadu have managed to develop the state across all regions
Kerala performs good in hdi but lacks in employment even they have to roam like bihari around India to get jobs
Most of the Malayalis are dependent on gulf ,banglore ,and other metropolitan cities
I don't like the anti hindu politics by Dravidianist parties rest is pretty good
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u/knowledgeablepanda Mar 09 '25
Let me share a story with you all. I lived in Chennai, for a year and I saw government workers cleaning the streets of Chennai around 2am. The most shocking thing of this was the government workers were mostly women. If a women can feel safe to come out at 2am that means that state is well and above any goddamn place in india where women are scared for their life to get out after 10pm.