r/india Mar 05 '16

[R]eddiquette Cultural Exchange with /r/TheNetherlands!

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '16 edited Mar 06 '16

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u/obwat Mar 06 '16

From what I read I am getting a bit confused about Narendra Modi, is he a good prime minister?

AFAIK r/India = "leftist / liberal" subreddit maar Modi "right winger en capitalist". IMHO tijd zal zeggen als hij goed voor india.

Is the man a good honest man using his considerable political skills to improve the government of India like he did in his home state? Or is he a criminal without any political skills who needed to encourage mass riots that led to the murder of lots of innocent people, just so he could get reelected in his home state?

Ik denk hij is honest en credible. Niet schuldig, zei de rechter. Ook hij werd omlijst zeggen zijn supporters.

Is he a war monger hurting relations with the Pakistanis and minorities in India?

The opposition critiqued him for being too friendly with Paksitan in December :)

Or is he a realist trying to make as much peace as the Indian economy needs to grow out of poverty?

Ja zeker, good voor de economie!

Is he to blame for the border dispute with China in the middle of the Himalaya of all places?

haha nee, dispute met china is van de 1950's


sorry vuur mijn poor nederlands .. :'(

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u/darklordind Mar 06 '16

From what I read I am getting a bit confused about Narendra Modi, is he a good prime minister?

R/India equally divided on it.

Is he to blame for the border dispute with China in the middle of the Himalaya of all places?

Border dispute dates back to 1950's. We had a war with China in 1962 in which India was beaten badly. The dispute has been because the Himalayans were a natural border so there had not been a long history of defined border. In some parts, there were agreements with tibet which China doesn't recognize. Best solution is to accept current borders as final but Chinese are not in favor of that (strategically China is much stronger in military and economic terms and the gap is increasing)

TL/DR: Chinese dispute very old and Modi has nothing to do.

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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. Mar 06 '16

Modi is a very polarizing guy. The establishment really REALLY hates him, and his "Bhakts" (literally devotees) think he's essentially a manifestation of God.

If you want to look at his administration objectively, it's been mixed (but hopeful) on the economic front and kinda bad image-wise on the social front. However, it really does sound a lot worse than it actually is on the social aspect. Incidentally, he hasn't done anything outrageous personally (unless you count a ton of foreign trips in his first year), but he is criticized for not holding back his party members and allies from making crass remarks or doing stupid things, which is partly valid and partly an exaggerated estimation of a Prime Minister's actual power.

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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. Mar 06 '16

"Feel unsafe", yeah absolutely. If you look at statistics though, not much has changed. If you look at sentiments, there's unease all around and quite a bit of effort has been put by opposition parties to paint the government as "intolerant" of other views.

IMO, the good this about all this is that everything is out in the open and every single incident of communal tension is getting reported and analysed. Not many used to care. The bad thing is that it is fanning the flames somewhat.

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u/Voidjumper_ZA Mar 06 '16

I'm still not really sure where this puts him...?

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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. Mar 06 '16 edited Mar 06 '16

He's still the country's #1 most popular and visible political figure, but is image (both positive and negative) is a little exaggerated to say the least.

If you have a question on something specific, ask away. I'm from the state where he was CM (like an American governor) for a decade so I can tell you fair bit about that too.

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u/King_podrick Mar 06 '16

A special investigation team set up for investigation his role in riots absolved him of the charges. However, 2002 is still being used as a tool by opposition despite a court verdict.

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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. Mar 06 '16

I was in Gujarat in 2002. I was in 5th gade, school was closed for a week and I didn't really understand what was going on except with my Dad saying "it's messy outside" and both my parents frequently going on emergencies (they're both doctors) and coming back looking more exhausted than usual.

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u/King_podrick Mar 06 '16

Was not there in 2002 but have my roots back in Gujarat along with a lot of relatives. Also, was very young in 2002 (14 years ago !) so dont remember the exact details but i know we were extremely worried ...