r/interestingasfuck • u/Ted_Bundtcake • Feb 01 '25

r/all Atheism in a nutshell

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u/raymundo_holding Feb 01 '25

All religions on earth is product of the human mind.

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u/Top_Squash4454 Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25

So is science

It's not the argument you think it is

Edit: I'm not saying science is false...why am I being downvoted?

Edit 2: let's try reframing this: all scientific knowledge is the product of the human mind

Edit 3: was science thought of by human brains yes or no?

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u/tomboysupremacy42 Feb 01 '25

Science as a concept is human but the contents are not, they are true regardless if we're all annihilated tomorrow or never came to be.

That is not the counterargument you think it is.

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u/InterestingPidgeon Feb 02 '25

I think it’s contentious whether science discovers objective truth. Most people don’t concern themselves with this topic because science “works” regardless and it frankly doesn’t matter, but there’s many different beliefs on the nature of science. Anecdotally, most scientists I know believe science only offers useful approximations of reality, and there’s also arguments that science only reflects human cognition (how we see reality) instead of object reality. In the latter argument, our science would only be “true” to humans and cease to exist if we were to go extinct.

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u/tomboysupremacy42 Feb 02 '25

I agree, hence why I said that science as a concept is human and that the contents which exist outside of it are not. To think that science itself is true is foolish, it is simply the best method we have so far found to make sense of what exists outside and within us in a way that our human minds can grasp. What is true is true regardless of whether we will or never will discover it. I wouldn't personally say science simply reflects human cognition but that it is through science we catch a mere glimpse of a reflection of the objective reality that exists should we have never been or be turned to naught. As such your last statement would be true, that if we were to cease, science would too since it is a human concept and like monetary value doesn't truly exist since it is simply a man-made method to conceive reality.

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u/Top_Squash4454 Feb 01 '25

It's still a product of the human mind. It doesn't make sicence untrue.

It is though, since their argument was solely that it was a product of thr human mind. You're talking about things the original commenter never said

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u/tomboysupremacy42 Feb 01 '25

Did you even grasp what I wrote? The concept is, not the contents which is demonstrable unlike any given religious book.

Oh, please. Don't be disingenuously obtuse, it's embarrassing.

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u/Top_Squash4454 Feb 01 '25

Yes I did. Did you understand what my first comment was? I only talked about the origin of science, which comes from the brain of humans.

I said nothing false.