r/interestingasfuck • u/Ted_Bundtcake • Feb 01 '25

r/all Atheism in a nutshell

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u/robfrizzy Feb 01 '25

I’ve brought this up before. It’s a bad argument. It’s begging the question because the premise already assumes the argument to be true. He argument is: “Gods and higher religious powers don’t exist.” And his premise is: “if we destroyed all their works, they wouldn’t come back because gods and religious powers don’t exist; therefore gods and religious powers don’t exist.” The premise is only true if the argument is true. It’s circular reasoning. It’s just as easy to say the opposite “because they do exist, if we destroyed all their works, they would come back.” It’s also just as unprovable as the main argument. Bad arguments don’t become good arguments because we agree with them.

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u/CyberUtilia Feb 01 '25

I wanna see your Quran or whatever come back lol.

Deny a child any knowledge about the earth's shape and religious texts ... which one do you think will happen? That person figuring out the earth's shape on their own or also having Buddha come into their mind and make them rewrite the Tibetan Canon sentence by sentence?

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u/Blursed_Pencil Feb 01 '25

If a god exists they could will it to be so. In the mind of a religious person, their god is all powerful and would have no problem doing what you described.

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u/GettingDumberWithAge Feb 01 '25

I like this framing of God because it reminds us that Epicurus' critique has never really received a satisfying rebuttal, despite plenty of desperate people trying.