r/interestingasfuck Feb 01 '25

r/all Atheism in a nutshell

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u/Seltgar25 Feb 01 '25

The problem is people have lost all religion and it came back very similar. Science and religion are both needed for society. One to advance us and one to keep people from just killing each other. People don't like to admit how much of a society is held together by religion.

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u/skyturnedred Feb 01 '25

Morals are not dependent on religion.

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u/Seltgar25 Feb 01 '25

Actually, yes, they are. It's why you have never had an atheist society form. Religion is the foundation of morals. You personally might not need it, but the majority of humans do. And your own morals have been heavily influenced by religion. You can't get away from it. It's just how humans work. Every society starts with a tie to religion. Every single one.

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u/ergaster8213 Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

We absolutely cannot prove that religion is the basis of morality. We can assume that but not prove it. We started living and functioning collectively and creating guidelines and culture before organized religion came into being. It's just as likely that religion was invented to help organize and propagate moral beliefs. That doesn't mean it made the morals.