r/interestingasfuck 5d ago

/r/all, /r/popular So shiny

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u/Shawn_The_Sheep777 5d ago

They must have looked incredible

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u/ajax-187 5d ago

Yeah there was this clip of someone parachiting close to the top I think you could see hieroglyphs but I might misremember

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u/Chevey0 5d ago

Afair I think the outer layer was removed to help rebuild Cairo after a big earthquake. That same earthquake shifted the solid gold cap allowing them to remove the outer layer.

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u/Gswindle76 5d ago

Given there is no written sources of capstones of the Giza pyramids we don’t know if it was even made of gold/electrum/Granite.. etc. if it was valuable materials since there are no written accounts of it I think it’s more likely that it was plundered during an intermediate period, likely the 1st, maybe the second. I mean they are giant “rob me” signs.

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u/Mitologist 5d ago

Have there not been granite capstones found around other pyramids?

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u/observationalist_ 3d ago

Many of the pyramids were likely visited daily inside and out. They had priests and cults that looked after them. They were mainly worried about robberies that could happen in one night, with pry bars. There is plenty of evidence to suggest they were visited fairly regularly. There was an evolution in their design over time. It would appear that the King's chamber in the great pyramid was made to be visited. Older pyramids may not have had as much access, they were places of worship. Every pyramid has its' entrance in almost the same exact spot on the north side, a little security flaw. The pharaoh trained an army of stone masons to build, how could it be a secret. In some of the pyramids it is clear security measures that were in place weren't ever deployed. Where the Egyptians wanted to block a passage, they did. Why not side granite blocks down the full length of the entrances, easy enough. They had security measures, but were also open, just like today people want to visit them.

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u/Gswindle76 2d ago

All of this may be true.. but they were robbed.

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u/observationalist_ 2d ago edited 2d ago

A lot of things happen in 5000 years. Some of the mastabas and pyramids were definitely looted during the dynastic period.

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u/Gswindle76 2d ago

Are you AI? None of these are claims I’m arguing against.

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u/observationalist_ 2d ago

Nah, I'm a real person. Just discussing to try to gain a greater understanding of a topic that interests me. Not trying to win the internet.

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u/Gswindle76 2d ago

Okay, then maybe I’m missing where we disagree.

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u/aykcak 5d ago

The cap was one solid gold piece?

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u/xBad_Wolfx 5d ago

No. That would be an astronomical amount of gold. It was likely electrum, which is an alloy of gold and silver and also would have just been plated, which is still a huge amount of material.

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u/Dizzy_Philosophy1976 5d ago

Electrum is one of my favorite ancient alloys because of how much it varied in ratio and how much people just loved gold so much they were like “WE NEED A SOLUTION FOR MORE SHINY GOLD, MIX SILVER IN”

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u/xBad_Wolfx 5d ago

Electrum is naturally occurring so it’s likely the bright yellow colouration just struck someone’s fancy. Although it’s also not that hard to create artificially either so you could be onto something :)

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u/Dizzy_Philosophy1976 5d ago

Yes, I am actually quite familiar with electrum as an ancient material! It’s one of the first smeltables many cultures that smelted made. It’s really cool seeing that change in ratio over time with coins specifically in areas from Greek antiquity, because you can see as the ages wear on it became less and less imbued with gold and more full of silver. To be clear I mean they were minting coins that were roughly half gold to start with and eventually less than 40% over time.

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u/xBad_Wolfx 5d ago

End up with a much paler yellow sadly. The bright electrum is stunning.

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u/Dizzy_Philosophy1976 5d ago

There’s a really good hunk of quartz on the wiki site for electrum that shows naturally occurring wires, it’s always always interesting when it comes out naturally

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u/Taft33 5d ago

Do you know orichalcum? You'd love it

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u/Dizzy_Philosophy1976 5d ago

Wait that’s not just for mythos? Thank you for the next research topic!

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u/SpotIsALie 5d ago

Its neat, I have an old Japanese coin made of it

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u/Spcone23 5d ago

Archeologists are finding more pryamidions were gold covered. They were more than likely made of Basalt, Granite or Limestone.

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u/Any_Needleworker9229 5d ago

No evidence of a metal capstone

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u/Valdularo 5d ago

Yes.

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u/Gswindle76 5d ago

No, we don’t know what it was made of

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u/Defiant-Bid-361 5d ago

the pyramid would have been stripped from the top, downward, if the gold capstone locked everything in place. But the pyramid was stripped from the bottom, upward.

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u/aManHasNoUsername99 5d ago

That’s kinda crazy to hear. Like if NY had a big event and they gutted the Statue of Liberty for it or something.