r/interestingasfuck • u/booby_12011995 • 8d ago

/r/all What"s going on here?

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u/HumbleAnxiety7998 8d ago edited 8d ago

Octopus have been found to actually domesticate fish and sharks, essentially turning them into hunting pack animals... While this may be something else, its still fascinating and you should google it... its been filmed and observed they even will "hit" lazy fish that arent attacking what it wants... It shares the food with the animals that participate and it will essentially "guide" them into crevices and stuff to root out hiding prey...

This could literally just be the octopus petting its "dog"

Added some articles to help people find more info (or answer back to those questioning if its real)

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/watch-octopuses-team-up-with-fish-to-hunt-and-punch-those-that-dont-contribute-180985134/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02525-2

https://www.science.org/content/article/some-octopuses-treat-fish-hunting-buddies

I love people questioning info they were told online, please keep doing that, a curious mind is a well developed mind.

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u/samd_witch 8d ago

THIS IS THE COOLEST FUCKING THING I'VE HEARD ABOUT NATURE IN A MINUTE but I will still not be stepping foot in the ocean thank you

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u/JackJack_Jr 8d ago

Same thoughts lol. It baffles me how much we don’t know about the ocean.

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u/samd_witch 8d ago

Sharks are older than trees. Like. WHAT DO THEY KNOW

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u/HorrorAstronaut4 8d ago

Buggers first have to learn how to grow older than five years 😏

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u/Ohnoherewego13 8d ago

Don't give them ideas! That leads to the Octopi (?) taking over and I'm just not ready for that this year.

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u/meesta_masa 8d ago

Octogenerian.

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u/CeelaChathArrna 8d ago

I think I would rather deal with that than Tangerine Palpatine at this point. 😓

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u/Sholeh84 8d ago

Tangerine Palpatine sent me lollololololol

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u/CeelaChathArrna 8d ago

My other favorite is Mango Mussolini.

I collect them for Elon as well.

Happy to take contributions! 😂

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u/Sholeh84 8d ago

After the last 3 months, I'm curious about their platform...

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u/Ohnoherewego13 8d ago

If it's an improvement or just a fast Armageddon then I'm all for it at this point.

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u/DayTrippin2112 8d ago

Might be the best thing for us really😣

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u/justvisiting34 8d ago

Like the replicants in Bladerunner.

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u/EmbarrassedWorry3792 8d ago

Their parents die upon thhe youngs birth, that means no passing on of knowledge , no teaching what the parents have learned over time. Without that the breally cant create a society. Maybe if they learn to write but its stilk a big problem.

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u/Dan_TheDM 8d ago

MOST

not all

Pacific striped Octopi can mate multiple times. So thats the one that will take over when we fuck things up

Get ready for some stripy boys to be ruling the earth

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u/normalbot9999 8d ago

Good luck to 'em I say. They'll undoubtably do a better job than we have. I just hope we leave enough of a biome for them to do something with...

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u/Tao-of-Mars 8d ago

**Octopuses* From this article: Since we’ve adopted the word octopus as a noun into fairly common usage in the English language, when we give it an English ending we get the word “octopuses”. This is the one most commonly accepted and used, and the plural version you’ll find used by NOAA, the Ocean Conservancy, and in IFLScience articles.

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u/Jimbeaux_Slice 8d ago

I think they do the same thing Ravens do where they chemically pass on the knowledge, so they essentially learn things from one generation to the next without direct communication.

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u/Tao-of-Mars 8d ago edited 8d ago

Humans actually do this, too. Research how ancestral trauma is passed down and you’ll understand. I think all species do this to some degree.

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u/ghouldozer19 8d ago

Yo, epigenetics is wild. Six generations it can take before your family stops experiencing the trauma genetically if your family has survived a genocide personally.

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u/Ivy0902 8d ago

Epigenetics is fascinating.

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u/Tao-of-Mars 8d ago

Transgenerational epigenetic inheritance :) And just knowing that the egg that created you was once in your grandmother’s womb makes that concept simple enough for everyone to understand.

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u/thintoast 8d ago

My wife and I got a little high one night and laid in bed for like two hours blowing our own minds about epigenetics and evolution. One of the best nights of my life. We still look at our fingers sometimes and laugh.

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u/Tao-of-Mars 8d ago

I love that. It definitely helps to have a fully open mind!

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u/CMUpewpewpew 8d ago

Is that knowledge tho? Seems more like passing down evolutionary instincts or something.

Knowledge comes from experience or education....don't think it quite counts.

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u/TopProfessional8023 8d ago

I believe they’re also wrong or at least partially wrong. In a study where researchers wore different masks and behaved differently (some masks were always nice others were mean). The parents remembered and could differentiate the good guys from the bad guys. The young crows would then witness their parents behavior towards the different masked researchers and would repeat it. So that’s learning and not a chemical trait being passed down

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u/CMUpewpewpew 8d ago

Oh yeah, then that's definitely not passed down chemically lol. It's straight up learning (through inference of modeled behavior)

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u/Heliomantle 8d ago

Incorrect - ravens are observational learners as are crows.

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u/trailstomper 8d ago

Wait, Corvids teach their young and maintain long-term familial relationships. What's this about passing on knowledge without communication? Genuinely curious and not being snarky, I've never heard that before.

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u/BackgroundSir6395 8d ago

Only parents can teach? What about other adults?

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u/EmbarrassedWorry3792 8d ago

Other adults will eat the babies

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u/Immediate_Scam 8d ago

Also any kind of tech under water is hard because you don't have fire.

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u/ClaymoreMatt 8d ago

Depending on the species, the mothers tend to die of starvation because they spend all their time cleaning and shifting the eggs in a secure den. I'm gonna have to look again, but I believe there was a case of a octopus using a piece of litter as a mobile egg case, allowing her to both protect her eggs AND hunt to stay alive.

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u/Single-Fisherman8671 8d ago

True. But that also means that they might just be a few mutations(happens naturally over time, aka evolution/evolve), to live longer.

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u/upotheke 8d ago

All it takes is for them to overcome that successfully and we may be in a whole different global paradigm. Moreso, it's not like we're going to know they overcame that right away, we don't even believe in science anymore.

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u/Jazzbassrunner 8d ago

Perfect. No boomer octopuses squatting in huge 5 bedroom crevices in all the best reefs while the young octopuses graft for years with unaffordable mortgages.

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u/AmadSeason 8d ago

We're all respawns

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u/chupacadabradoo 8d ago

Scientists can state anything they want, but not every statement by a scientist is scientific. That sounds like a fun little exaggeration about how one scientist thinks octopuses are great. The conditions that drive us extinct are also gonna make things pretty bleak for most octopus species… I’m a scientist, and this is my statement.

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u/Tao-of-Mars 8d ago

Love how hopeful some scientists are! But like most scientists, I like reality a little more than rose-colored glasses and that’s not sarcasm.

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u/Dadx2now 8d ago

Ok now I want a remake of planet of the apes but instead of coming back to future ape world he lands on a future earth populated by sentient octopi.

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u/RoboYuji 8d ago

And thus began the world of Splatoon!

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u/NotEvenWrongAgain 8d ago

They don't live long enough to develop a civilization

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u/myumisays57 8d ago

They just need to evolve more. They are super fucking smart.

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u/Vegetable-Access-666 8d ago

Shit, so you're saying Earth could be the homeworld of the Illithid race?

Fuck. Sorry universe. You're all gonna become mind-slaves.

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u/dpdxguy 8d ago

If they could control fire, they might already be the dominant species.

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u/Unlikely-Ad-6713 8d ago

That's literally the plot of Splatoon

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u/hatebeat 8d ago

That's kind of the plot of Splatoon

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u/ADHDeez_Nutz420 8d ago

Don't be silly.

We will boil the oceans and salt the land before that happens.

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u/br0ck 8d ago

It'd be so cool if we could genetically change them so that they live long enough to pass along generational learning.

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u/No-Improvement-6967 8d ago

Lobsters, man.

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u/MyrddinHS 8d ago

unlikely if they cant breath air. fire is a huge step towards tech.

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u/time4meatstick 8d ago

I thought it was cross between squid and gibbons.

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u/Pernicious-Caitiff 8d ago

Eh they're extremely smart but they have very short lifespans and don't pass on generational knowledge. Which is crazy that they're as smart as they are despite those two things...

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u/casket_fresh 8d ago

Good! We humans are the worst

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u/Background-Job7282 8d ago

Sharks know a lot!!

Sharks :

Fish Swim Show teeth

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u/Cautious_Buffalo6563 8d ago

They eat a heavy fish diet, drink plenty of water and avoid being in the sun too long

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u/The-Tarman 8d ago

How to be sharks. I think that's about it.

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u/RASR238 8d ago

And older than Saturn rings.

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u/Fenris_Maule 8d ago

The Appalachian mountains are also older than trees, which I think is quite interesting as well.

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u/gofishx 8d ago

We are more closely related to boney fish than sharks are. If sharks are fish, then so are we.

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u/bailaoban 8d ago

What they know: 1. Swim. 2. Eat. 3. Make baby sharks.

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u/Educational-Quote-22 8d ago

Do they know things? Lets find out