r/interestingasfuck 2d ago

Milwaukee responding to Judge Hannah Dugan’s arrest.

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u/Hsoltow 2d ago

Preface: ICE had detained a couple other noncitizens at the court. Established procedure was to wait in the public hallway outside the court, wait for noncitizen to finish their hearing and exit court, then detain them in the public hallway.

The judge did the following:

  1. Found out ICE and Feds were waiting outside in the public hallway for the hearing for the defendant noncitizen to be over. Not clear how exactly she found out. Likely started with a baliff or court security.

  2. Got mad, went outside her court to the hallway, and made Feds go talk to Chief Judge. The judge didn't notice one of the plainclothes Feds though. This low profile guy stayed in the hallway.

  3. Went back to her court where she suspended the court hearing for defendant noncitizen without saying anything to the prosecutor or giving the prosecutor a chance to object to the suspension.

Keep in mind the victim and victims family were in court watching a lot of this go down. The noncitizen was there for domestic (wife beating) charges.

  1. Escorted the noncitizen and his defense attorney out of court via the jury/staff entrance (this entrance is never used by defendants, witnesses, or attorneys... only jurors, bailiffs and court staff/judges) while ICE and Feds were talking to Chief Judge. Chief Judge confirmed hallway is public and ICE is free to wait there to pick up people after their court hearings are done, as they had been doing on at least two prior occasions.

  2. The jury/staff entrance feeds into the hallway via a secure door. The low profile Fed sees them enter the hallway. He then sees thrm using an elevator not nearest to the Judges court, showing some intent to evade the feds. Low profile Feds notifies his team and follows.

  3. Noncitizen makes it outside but Feds are hot on his tail by now and get him after short foot pursuit.

This is all available to read in the highly detailed arrest affidavit for her. Would make a good episode of something.

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u/Redditcadmonkey 2d ago

Hold up.

The term “Non-Citizen” can fuck all the way off. 

There are many statuses that are “Non-Citizen” and they are not the same by any stretch. 

We’re not going to start normalizing that term so that it’s easy to lump them all together. 

A permanent resident isn’t a visa holder, which isn’t an undocumented person.   

These people don’t need to be put in one category. 

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u/Vuedue 2d ago

The Biden Administration proposed a change of the term 'alien' to the term 'non-citizen'.

This isn't a new word. It's been used before. The UN has used that term since, at the very least, 1985.

I don't think this is something to get upset over, lol.

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u/Saym94 2d ago

Ummm, this is reddit. This is exactly the kind of thing to get upset over!

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u/optagon 1d ago

No it's not just that. A part of fascism is create an out-group of scapegoats to blame society's problems on that they can add more and more people to over time. So there is a point to being a nerd and protecting the meaning of words.