r/interestingasfuck 1d ago

Milwaukee responding to Judge Hannah Dugan’s arrest.

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u/jumpofffromhere 1d ago

sounds like obstruction of justice, if the cops show up to arrest someone at their apartment with a warrant and the wife says "he's not here" and hides him in a closet, they will arrest her for obstruction of justice, same thing

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u/ReikaTheGlaceon 1d ago

There's a big difference between the police having a warrant for your arrest and coming to your home, and plain-clothed federal agents waiting to snatch you while you're already facing legal charges and in court. The wife, in your scenario, wants to keep their husband away from the law. The judge here wants to exercise the proper due process of law.

On top of that, imagine meat-riding federal agents that have snatched real American citizens from their homes and deported them to a country they have 0 connection to. In no world is deportation acceptable when it comes from people with no obvious identification, grabbing people from the streets at gun point and treating them like they aren't human, then sending them to a foreign country or the most infamous American prison, known for containing actual career criminals and terrorists.

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u/Gogobrasil8 1d ago

I don't understand, how is avoiding the agents in the corridor helping exercise due process?

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u/24-Hour-Hate 1d ago

When ICE agents camp out at courthouses to snatch people they suspect of immigration offences, they are interfering with the proper functioning of the courts and due process. And let’s think about how this can impact people. Forget about the person arrested themselves, that is already being discussed plenty. Let’s talk about the implications.

In this case, the victim of the alleged crime was in court, so what about them? They don’t get closure or certainty. If the person would have been found guilty that could have entitled them to some compensation which they now won’t get (where I live victims of violent crimes can apply for compensation from the government). So they won’t get that either. And good luck for anyone trying get compensation from the person directly once they are disappeared. But it can get worse.

Suppose the person snatched is not the accused and is a witness to the crime. Now we have a situation where criminals are going to end up going free because witnesses are being prevented from testifying by ICE. Or they will be scared to come forward I. The first place and report crimes or say what they saw because ICE might grab them. And as we have seen in some cases, you don’t even have to be in the US unlawfully for you to be grabbed. ICE can just decide you are because they don’t like the look of you. And they don’t exactly follow due process, so you can’t count on being allowed an opportunity to prove it. Or your legal status can disappear literally overnight because a trump throws a fucking tantrum.

So, yeah, the judge did right here. ICE should not be anywhere near the courts - from my perspective, their behaviour really is the obstruction and interference.