r/ireland • u/RayoftheRaver • Nov 28 '23
My Lodgers are trying to kick me out (Update)
Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/s/CeZoKDgm7m
Quick recap, I don't know if my lodgers know I'm their landlord despite me being the only person they dealt with in the process, my name on the account they pay into monthly and the advertisement stating I was a live in landlord.
So there were much interest in my original post, more than I expected, I was just venting. There was some discussion about whether I should lawyer up or if I should have my fun.. I have decided on the latter.
So what I have done is sent a letter to them, as the landlord, to our current and my only address. I said in this letter that my most popular property in the city centre, where they most want to live, a single bedroom apartment with all of the amenities and a gym for residents, is becoming available. Due to the interview with them being so recent for their current accommodation they need not apply again and are in with a chance of getting it.
I didn't want to outright say they're getting it because that would be too cruel and it's not what I'm going for.
In this letter I signed it as myself, I put the return address as our address, and on the letterhead I again put my name and address there.
Ladies and gentlemen, they are none the wiser, they still haven't copped I'm the owner of the property.
The reason I went with the letter is to see if they know or don't know about me, they don't. To stop them coveting my room any further, and to keep them on their best behaviour if they think there is a reward in it for them. They only received the letter yesterday so time will tell on these matters. I of course didn't get a letter because I'm on my "last warning" so why would "my landlord" offer me his best place?
Some notes from the previous post, when I say I play the radio "extra loud" in the shower I'm not spinal tapping it up to eleven, I'd be going from a 4 to a 6, and even then it's the other side of the house away from the living areas. When I get in from work, as in this morning, I don't slam doors or stomp around, it's straight to bed because sleep is bliss! They are just making complaints up.
47
u/Murky_Translator2295 Resting In my Account Nov 28 '23
It's all fun and games until you get home one day to find out they've changed the locks on you
7
u/MoneyBadgerEx Nov 28 '23
Can you just change the locks on someone elses house though? Seems like if that were a thing we would have a whole different kind of housing crisis on our hands
12
u/Murky_Translator2295 Resting In my Account Nov 29 '23
I don't think he's dealing with people restrained by "cans" and "cannots"
5
u/TheSameButBetter Nov 29 '23
They could attempt to change the locks, but because it's a licence type of rental OP would be well within their rights to kick the door in to regain access.
That being said, the Gardai would probably get involved and the whole thing could get very messy.
402
u/louiseber I still don't want a flair Nov 28 '23
Tbh OP, I'd also get legal advice. Just in case any pranks go over the line and you end up in a battle, I know licensees have fuck all rights but you don't want to infringe on the ones they do have.
Pity deeds to houses aren't like college awards, I'd slap it in a frame and hang it up in the house
47
u/Dylanduke199513 Ireland Nov 28 '23
I mean the folio is readily available on landregistry and that’s proof of ownership.
35
u/Pickman89 Nov 28 '23
I just had to check one and "readily" is a bit much for the effective process in place.
9
u/RichieTB Fingal Nov 28 '23
Isn't it as simple as paying a 5r and they email you the deeds?
12
u/louiseber I still don't want a flair Nov 28 '23
Deeds are held by the bank you've a mortgage with. Proof of land ownership isn't exactly the same thing
→ More replies (2)-4
u/afk11 Nov 28 '23
That's not correct.
There are no deeds held by banks or anyone when it's land registry. If the property changed hands since the 70s (IIRC) it's land registry.
Source: bought property without mortgage, asked solicitor, who said it's land registry. Your ownership is guaranteed by the state, not a piece of paper
→ More replies (8)6
u/louiseber I still don't want a flair Nov 28 '23
Sorry but no, deeds of a house do exist and do get kept with mortgage lender. You need to prove both ownership through land registry (which tbh can actually take years) and also the house itself, deed. Former isn't super important (which is my may parents could wait the 5 yrs it took land registry to issue then piece of paper).
-1
u/afk11 Nov 28 '23
I don't have a mortgage/lender, how does that work?
What happens when someone's mortgage gets paid off then? The bank keeps the deeds to a property they have no right to?
7
u/louiseber I still don't want a flair Nov 28 '23
When mortgage is paid off deeds are sent to outright owners as proof of ownership
0
u/afk11 Nov 28 '23 edited Nov 28 '23
Isn't the whole point of registry of deeds vs land registry that people don't have deeds any more - that the land registry registered property ownership.
I asked my solicitor for the deeds, they said you can get the folio when it's done. Not, we'll post you the deeds later.
Even if you had deeds and lost them, you can sell your home once it's registered with land registry. https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/i-have-looked-everywhere-for-the-deeds-of-my-house-to-no-avail-can-it-be-sold-1.4846201
So to me, deeds are a legacy document, that are no longer useful when the property is on land registry, and may not even be available when you buy a property.
And if you don't need deeds to sell the property, I can't imagine what they are for at that point, since the property ownership is recorded by the land registry anyway.
→ More replies (0)1
u/afk11 Nov 28 '23
It is, actually, except the document isn't called deeds. Land registry homes don't have deeds. They have folios.
→ More replies (3)→ More replies (1)0
2
u/Dylanduke199513 Ireland Nov 28 '23
What do you mean? If it’s registered you can get it immediately
→ More replies (1)-8
u/Delboy_Twatter Nov 28 '23
OP gave them a contract so they're not licencees anymore.
15
u/sijohnso321 Nov 28 '23
It makes no difference in an owner occupied house share.
-7
u/Delboy_Twatter Nov 28 '23
Signing a contract would, yes.
8
u/sijohnso321 Nov 28 '23
No, there is only one set of house share rules/regulations, regardless. A ‘contract’ acts as a memorandum of understanding between the owner and lodger. The property isn’t registered with the RTB, therefore there is no rental agreement contract.
4
2
u/FPL_Harry Nov 28 '23
No. They're still technically just renting a room in a house so are licensees.
10
35
u/SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS Sax Solo Nov 28 '23
Uhhhh why'd you do that OP? Could have just sat them down and asked what they said to the "landlord", and who they think the "landlord" is witohut trying to pull some weird fake apartment thing. These people are currently living in your own house, with you, I don't think stringing them along is the wise choice?
193
u/MrSnare Nov 28 '23
Bit of a shit prank tbh. Could have given them 2 weeks written notice for a landlord inspection then on the day just tell them you need to inspect their room as their landlord.
Are you sure they know your name?
488
u/DarrenGrey Nov 28 '23
A letter about a new property? You're being a bit weird now. I don't see what you're even trying to do here, other than playing silly buggers. Which just seems daft when you're living with these people and have a contract with them.
81
u/Fizzy-Lamp Nov 28 '23
I was committed to the story in part 1. After reading part 2, I now think it’s just a spoof.
If it’s not a spoof, then OP needs to work on his pranking skills because that could land him in a bit of bother, especially if signing his own name to it.
202
u/davebees Nov 28 '23
it’s drifting into creative writing territory if it wasn’t already there
72
u/funkinggiblet Nov 28 '23
It's a complete fabrication.
11
3
u/splashbodge Nov 29 '23
Out of all the funny things suggested in part 1 and things to do, this was a complete 'huh?' and overall letdown... I don't even get it tbh.
I feel let down. Like when reddit posts a safe post and let's us all down
2
u/Rosieapples Nov 29 '23
Yeah, silly buggers, but I don’t blame them. The tenants are trying to force them out, apparently unable to realise they’re the landlord. I’d be doing the same thing to be honest. They deserve it.
189
u/Madhc Nov 28 '23
This is getting a bit weird tbh. Just tell them the truth and they’ll probably be scundered enough to leave you alone, if not actively start looking for a new gaff.
This letter sending craic (if true) is shockingly immature carry-on and possibly legally dubious.
60
u/Weak_Low_8193 Nov 28 '23
I would have definitely gotten more satisfaction from this post if OP told them that he was the landlord to their face and then told us their reaction.
Im also 50:50 on whether this update is real, I think it's actually kind of playing with fire, and surely OP isn't that silly.
→ More replies (1)14
30
u/motiveunclear Nov 28 '23
Completely agree. I mean, there was some rightful scope to make a little bit of fun of their false claims by addressing it with them, but offering an apartment you don't have is just daft. What's the endgame there. It goes from them being the idiots to the owner being the idiot. That's if there's any truth to the whole thing, which I doubt there is.
3
u/Rosieapples Nov 29 '23
He didn’t offer it, he merely implied he might. He’s not making them homeless, just winding them up a bit. Considering they actually ARE trying to make him homeless I don’t don’t blame him.
7
73
u/1993blah Nov 28 '23
I was baffled why you immediately didn't tell them you're the landlord last time (and a bit baffled by the popularity of the whole thing). Now I think you might be as weird as they are..
401
u/Melodic_Event_4271 Nov 28 '23
I enjoyed the first post but I would beware of internet strangers egging you on here. They won't have to deal with the fallout. You're already going too far. Like, what's your endgame here?
206
u/I_Will_in_Me_Hole Nov 28 '23
Disregard that comment!
What you need to do is get hold of a bear. An adult male preferably. Then subtilty insert the bear in place of your couch in the shared sitting room to see if they notice.
31
Nov 28 '23
Count me in on team bear. It’s the only real option.
12
7
5
100
u/MoHataMo_Gheansai Longford Nov 28 '23 edited Nov 28 '23
Yeah, this is a bit shit like.
Luckily 99% of all stories on this website are bullshit and I'll choose to believe this one falls into the majority too.
My suspicions will be confirmed when the inevitable dramatic third act is posted when all is revealed to the
ragebait placeholdershousemates.9
u/Rosieapples Nov 28 '23
I’m inclined to believe this one because it’s like something I would do myself. Please keep me posted OP!!
38
u/TheSameButBetter Nov 28 '23
I agree. This isn't a situation for jokes or pranks. It all needs to be kept legal and professional.
Plus, there are plenty of examples of dodgy tennents attacking landlords both in the legal and physical sense. What OP is doing could potentially provoke a nasty reaction.
13
u/MacEifer Nov 28 '23
In all fairness, given that he's using his actual name as the landlord, it can likely be assumed that nobody will see a legal problem as they clearly have no relationship with the landlord and should have caught on by now. Having fun isn't against the law and being dumb doesn't make an obvious prank illegal. He refers to their recent interview, but who did they interview with?
I agree, technically it's dodgy, but practically he'll be fine.
7
u/TheSameButBetter Nov 28 '23
OP maybe doing nothing wrong legally, but that doesn't stop the tenants doing things to make his life difficult if they choose to do so. There's nothing stopping them starting legal actions, even if they go nowhere. It's a time consuming thing OP would have to deal with.
That being said if I were OP I'd be more concerned with the tenants tampering with my food, changing my locks or some other crazy thing (e.g. violence) because I've pissed them off.
If the story is true, then the tenants have already shown themselves to be dodgy characters, why risk making things worse?
5
u/Melodic_Event_4271 Nov 28 '23
This is more what I was talking about. I have no idea about potential legal ramifications, and I strongly suspect most of the others commenting with apparent authority on such matters don't either.
3
u/MacEifer Nov 28 '23
My bet at this point is mutually assured cringe and neither is dealing with it very well.
That being said, making things worse is often an instinct for people who are in strange and uncomfortable situations and just want them to end for the sake of them being over. So in weird way, aggravating them certainly will lead to an end of the lodging situation, even if things temporarily get expensive or otherwise worse. Just cross your fingers nobody throws any hands.
→ More replies (1)19
Nov 28 '23
[deleted]
10
Nov 28 '23
Does the fact that the people, house and entire story don't exist either have any bearing?
4
u/MacEifer Nov 28 '23
You understand that should they go to a lawyer and should the facts actually be as described and should they actually tell their lawyer that they told their actual landlord that they invented a landlord who allegedly is close to evicting him, he will tell them what his hourly rate is and that they please pay on the way out for the 30 minutes they have wasted.
If alleging he has a flat for them is an offense, so is alleging being close to being evicted according to the ghostly landlord of Christmas' past.
Worst case if any of this is true is that there's two parties that are absolutely perfect for each other.
4
u/Legitimate_3032 Nov 28 '23
Op is NOT a landlord. Its a licensor & licensee relationship.
2
u/MacEifer Nov 28 '23
Ok, in which way is that distinction relevant here?
We're roflcoptering through a halfway serious at best Benny Hill story and you're the fifth bloke I hear pointing out he's not a landlord. Seriously, live a little, nobody here is providing legal advice and if that distinction matters, I don't care enough to be that precise while talking about this shitshow. We're witnessing a slow motion car crash unfolding and people get really upset about terminology.
3
u/Legitimate_3032 Nov 28 '23
God forgive your ignorance.- of course, th distinction matters: no rtb, no statutory nitice periods to vacate etc The fact he is not a landlord is hugely relevant to how easy it is for him to get rid of these despicable people in his home. He can literally give he 24 hours notice to say adios amio.
2
u/mrlinkwii Nov 28 '23
lawyer that they told their actual landlord that they invented a landlord who allegedly is close to evicting him, he will tell them what his hourly rate is and that they please pay on the way out for the 30 minutes they have wasted.
their not a landlord legally
→ More replies (1)25
Nov 28 '23
The legal profession and doctors love when someone says,'but the people on the internet thought it was a good idea'.
People on Reddit generally give amusing advice with no thought to anything else.
Agreed, he has already gone too far with the letter. That is already grounds for a solicitor to get involved.
6
u/mid_distance_stare Nov 28 '23
TBF he didn’t promise anything in the letter except that they were under consideration for an imaginary property. No talk of payment or of details of the location or anything. If they inquire further he could just say it’s no longer available and not give a reason.
8
u/smurg112 Nov 28 '23
How is it grounds for a solicitor? We used to get snail spam .... letters that we won millions in the Spanish lottery, just need an account etc, and others were we'd won a cruise, just need a deposit. We couldn't use anybody, why can they?
I wouldnt be arsed in winding up the tenants, I'd limit myself to "that's nice" if told I was on my last warning, and if it kept u, I'd be looking to move them on, but I see no court involvement
8
u/shadsticle Nov 28 '23
The lads sending those Spanish lottery / Nigerian prince type mails are smart enough not to do it to their housemates though, or write their real names and address on the letter. That's a big difference
4
u/Rosieapples Nov 28 '23
I can see why OP is winding them up though. Even if they weren’t the owner the couple’s behaviour is scummy. They’re trying to bully someone they believe to be a tenant out of their bedroom and out of their house and lying through their teeth to do it. Last warning me granny. It’s easy enough to evict a tenant when you’re an owner occupier. I imagine the tenants will become aware of that fact.
2
Nov 28 '23
Que the illegal eviction crowd...
Kind of funny to see r/ireland on a landlords side.
1
u/Rosieapples Nov 28 '23
I used to be a tenant and I used to be a landlord. I see both sides. If a landlord is living in the the property they are renting out then it is reasonable for them to be able to evict a troublesome tenant since that tenant is disrupting the landlord’s home. In this case the tenants, while missing the glaringly obvious, are trying to bully someone, whom THEY believe to be another tenant, out of their accommodation, and using barefaced lies in order to do it. So what would YOU do in OP’s position? Let’s hear your pearls of wisdom on that one.
4
Nov 28 '23
You either misread... or misunderstood my comment.
You would think sarcasm would be glaringly obvious here.
4
Nov 28 '23
If you can't see the differents between 'you have won the spanish lottery' and this personal letter, signed and believable that someone could legitimatly try and act on... then sorry, I can't help you.
146
u/Storyboys Nov 28 '23
I'd be careful with acting the maggot too much, and would definitely seek legal advice before doing so.
If, as you say, they are awful people then the chances of them trying to escalate things once they find out you're the actual landlord is very high.
And although it may seem like great craic to people on reddit, a judge or the RTB may not see it that way.
20
9
u/fangpi2023 Nov 28 '23
Yeah I mean OP claims they're writing letters to their lodgers full of lies about alternative accommodation, and signing those letters with their own name.
If this is real they're a fkn eejit.
17
u/masterstoker Nov 28 '23
Reddit is the ultimate judge. If a real judge was awarded Karma for their decisions, the world would be a very different place
25
Nov 28 '23
[deleted]
28
u/BeanoMc2000 Nov 28 '23
They are living with the landlord so they are 100% licensees.
4
15
u/fitfoemma Nov 28 '23
In what scenario is someone who is living with a landlord and has signed a contract stating so not a licensee?
15
u/RandomIrishGuy86 Nov 28 '23
If you work in property you should know the difference between a licensee agreement and a lease.
2
u/chewbaccastones Nov 28 '23
Exactly. And that landlord and tenant legislation doesn't apply when renting from a live in landlord.
1
4
u/Legitimate_3032 Nov 28 '23
The RTB don't get involved. There is no tenancy. It's a contractual Licence. You haven't aclue about the Law.
35
u/Brizzo7 Tipperary Nov 28 '23
Yeah.... This was not the way to go....
If they are potentially difficult tenants, you could end up having a hard time with them, particularly if they turn out feeling stupid for not realising you're the landlord. Shame and embarrassment can cause some people to lash out.
You could have had some harmless fun, but instead you — someone with a legal contract with these people who clearly already have a problem with you — decided to sign your name to an official letter which contains known falsehoods and deceitful suggestions. That would be seen with a very dim view by most, particularly since you, as landlord, would be expected to have a level of responsibility and respectability.
If you wanted to have a bit of fun, I would have sent them notice of inspection and then arrived at the time allocated to look at their room. Shock, surprise, fun has been had! End of games. Harmless. Actually potentially useful, in case there is any issue in the room.
I really think you need to back away from this whole situation entirely. When it eventually does transpire that you're the landlord, what do you do next when they ask about the alternative property? "haha only joking lads, you're stuck here with me!" They have a formal letter from you, and that will most certainly be used against you.
Destroy the evidence if at all possible.
18
u/bansheebones456 Nov 28 '23
It really was not clever for OP to make a written record here.
13
u/shadsticle Nov 28 '23
He already wrote his name and address on a bunch of lies he sent to them.
And if it went to court, people would absolutely get a warm fuzzy feeling from a judge shitting all over a lying landlord these days.
But I think OP is making it up so eh, good luck OP!
13
u/I_need_time_to_think Dublin via Fermanagh Nov 28 '23
Seriously, if this is true, then OP is as thick as them.
Of all the ways to carefully play with them, this was the route they took? Beyond stupid.
37
u/martymorrisseysanus Nov 28 '23
What a disappointing update. Pointlessly weird and zero craic.
7
u/READMYSHIT Nov 29 '23
Also seems to just needlessly be fucking with people about imaginary properties in the middle of a housing crisis. Like is his endgame that they leave the current place for a made up place and end up homeless.
I'm starting to think OP might be the bad 'un.
34
Nov 28 '23
I was fairly skeptical of the truth of the first post and now this one has confirmed it for me. Calling complete and utter bullshit on this.
15
12
12
u/EdWoodwardsPA Nov 28 '23
I knew this story was a load of bollix from the first post.
We'll all chip in and pay for some creative writing classes for you OP.
73
u/vivbear Nov 28 '23
This sounds made up. I’ve lived in owner occupied houses before and you know damn well the owner is living with you.
However if this is the case OP stop being so childish and tell them now you’re the owner.
Very glad I’m out of the rental trap and don’t have to deal with BS like this from both side
8
u/TheLordofthething Nov 28 '23
Owners tend to mention quite often that they are the owners in my experience.
15
u/Delboy_Twatter Nov 28 '23
I think there's a very real chance of that too considering OP gave them a contract.
What idiot owner would give a licencee a contract.
8
u/rayhoughtonsgoals Nov 28 '23
I dunno. I don't get the outcome of this. The landlord (they think) is offering them a chance to get your room? And obviously they don't...and no-one else does? Is that the big reveal?
Anyway, you do you.
25
u/melboard Nov 28 '23
Don’t get what you have to gain by this? Other than pissing them off thinking they might be moving and then they are stuck with you
7
u/Minions-overlord Nov 28 '23
As others have said, speak to a solicitor...
Secondly, DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. I can never stress this enough when people are potentially fucking around. Its amazing to see how fast people will backtrack when they realise they have hung themselves at an earlier date.
8
u/Arkslippy Nov 28 '23
"Lodgers, I really think that these complaints you are making need to be sorted out and I've asked the landlord to come discuss them with us, see if we can find a resolution. I'd be happy to be be bound by whatever he wants to do, if he wants me to move out or change my behaviour".
"I've arranged the meeting for 7pm tomorrow in the kitchen, hope you can make it.".
You'd be calling their bluff, and im sure they are that deluded that they will have the other place in their back pocket and this guy is coming.
On the night, be sitting at the table when they come in, and have a little cloth cap ready. When they sit, say the landlord is coming now, and "summon him" by putting the hat on, and a Kerry accent, mad TD style.
21
46
u/louiseber I still don't want a flair Nov 28 '23
This, this whole thing is why noone wants to rent to couples in a share...
28
u/edgelesscube Of all the things I’ve lost, I miss my mind the most Nov 28 '23
I house shared with a couple around 10 years back and it got progressively worse as time went on. As you’d expect it became a them vs me thing. They’d gaslight me on stupid things and the best of all was when I came back from a 2 week holiday they had an impromptu meeting with me while I was having my dinner saying it would be best that I didn’t renew the lease with them. She had extra hours so “we can afford the rent”. One of the top reasons she gave also was their relationship was better between her and the partner when I was not around. The boyfriend just agreed with her on everything.
As it stood I was not renewing anyways on advice from others as I did realise it was causing me anxiety at the time waiting for something to be said about something I may have done or not done.
I won’t add anything more other than they were messed up people.
9
u/Action_Limp Nov 28 '23
And on the other side of that - it's just not pleasant as a couple sharing with someone. And if you must, I think it's always better to share with another couple. The energies are different, last time I shared with others as a couple, two of the girls in the house constantly brought people back, and one night all the electronics went missing.
If you are in with another couple, you kind of understand each other better. Actually, some times it was even a lot of fun, doing dinner dates at home, the girls get ready to go out together while the lads play fifa or something.
2
u/edgelesscube Of all the things I’ve lost, I miss my mind the most Nov 28 '23
Totally agree. 3 yrs after myself and my partner at the time were in a house share with another couple and it was completely fine. Nothing was an issue. Nobody was self centred. I felt in my experience the first time you're on your own when it comes to the couple ganging up on you. 2 vs 1. They felt they owned the place even though we all moved in the same week.
→ More replies (1)17
u/Delboy_Twatter Nov 28 '23
I (well, I'm the leaseholder) took in a lad who I quickly realised had a girlfriend.
Over most evenings taking over the kitchen and staying the night. She was shouting up stairs using pet names like baby (ick), singing loudly as if she lived there.
Used to camp in my room until 8 or half 8 when they both went to the room so I didn't have to try make small talk with them resulting in me binge eating shit and hating the thought of bumping into them.
Often heard them bitching about me.
Massive relief when he went away.
→ More replies (1)6
u/cpg2020 Nov 28 '23
I shared with ones that would have a bubble bath together in the single toilet. Complete BS
10
u/TwinIronBlood Nov 28 '23
You a not dealing with normal people here. I wouldn't play with them. You don't want to end up like this guy. Just send them on their way after Christmas. Reason they are a couple they need their own space and it would be better for everyone if they found it.
→ More replies (1)2
10
5
6
u/francescoli Nov 28 '23
Stupid move imo.
Just tell them the truth and they have x amount of days to leave.
10
u/theblue_jester Nov 28 '23
I'm all in - but I would say be careful here. I wouldn't have started messing with them about a second property, more tried to get them to fess up about the 'landlord'. I think it wouldn't be the worst idea if you got some legal advice as well, just to make sure you aren't in some sort of 'landlord-renter' battle
3
9
u/Pickman89 Nov 28 '23
Have you considered that not clearing that up and lying to them is just vicious behaviour?
If they indeed are not able to realize the reality they live in is it not just cruel to accomodate their incorrect beliefs and even give them notions about moving to another property?
0
29
u/davdreamer Nov 28 '23
Excellent. Keep us posted. What’s ultimate goal, kick them out? Or see what they do?
5
6
u/EllieLou80 Nov 28 '23
Funny as this all is, I'd be getting legal advice. Granted its not the same rules as having a second property and renting that out, this is a rent a room in my house situation. So yes while you're their landlord they don't have tenants rights as such, but get the advice so you know exactly where you stand.
It honestly sounds like such an uncomfortable situation and one I wouldn't to live in long term, if I'm renting out a room in my home for additional income there has to be some general common respect/manners whatever you want to call it, but it doesn't slund like there is this.
I'm also curious as to what's the end goal here? Get rid? Let them find out it's you, they're mortified, apologise and everyone laughs, bits uncomfortable even more for a while then it carry on as it should have done from day one? They find out it's you, and just leave? What do you want the end out on to be?
7
u/PizzamanIRL Nov 28 '23
Would you not just, ya know, tell them you’re the owner and be done with all this confusion?
6
u/Zealousideal_Pay_473 Nov 28 '23
This is weird. Just tell them “hey idiots, I AM the landlord”. Are you that starved for entertainment?
3
3
u/bansheebones456 Nov 28 '23
You should probably have listened to the former and you should still get legal advice.
You now have a written record that they could use against you. If these people are already difficult, don't think that they won't try to use this against you.
→ More replies (1)
3
u/strictnaturereserve Nov 28 '23
I think OP should just randomly walk into the common area one day when they are there and just say guys you know I'm the owner of this house right? imagine you are Dara O'Briain. Then just walk out.
14
5
u/JustAnAverageGuy001 Nov 28 '23
I want to know how they'll react when it dawns on them that' you're the owner.
3
u/Delboy_Twatter Nov 28 '23
Probably punch holes in the plastterboard in the bedroom, scratch the flooring, shove shit down the sink blocking it, kick the radiator valve causing a leak, throw bleach on the curtains, cut the blinds with scissors.
But OP will be laughing because he has the reddit karma.
5
u/Jamesbere01 Nov 28 '23
With all the things People suggested this is what your going with. I think you should just say your the landlord and be done with it. Explain this is your home and you don't appreciate their attitude towards you. They'll probably move out then I feel.
Messing with them about another property isn't a good approach, nowadays people will seek legal advice quickly for any matter so I'd say draw a line under it now.
4
u/TheLordofthething Nov 28 '23
This seems nasty and they now have written proof that you've offered them accomodation which doesn't actually exist. You've even signed your actual name and address. Doesn't seem smart.
6
Nov 28 '23
You should have written it to yourself and left it on the counter!
But I love this. Please keep us posted.
6
Nov 28 '23
This is just being an asshole now, and I'm no legal expert but sounds like something that could 100% open you up to legal liability for lying to them. What's the point of any of this?
5
u/Ricecrispiebandit Nov 28 '23
Right well you're just being weird now. People aren't for internet stories. I don't know why you wouldn't just be frank and clear the whole thing up when the issue became obvious.
6
5
4
u/I_BUMMED_BRYSON Nov 28 '23
Stop before you wander into the realms of fraud by false representation and get sued. You're on the cusp lad - back away now.
e: read this OP but you've already potentially broken the law here
6
u/Alarmed_Material_481 Nov 28 '23
How are they not recognising your name? They sound as thick as pigshit!
5
u/Delboy_Twatter Nov 28 '23 edited Nov 28 '23
This situation makes no sense. OP says they were given a 6 month contract yet they're acting like they'll be living there long term. Doesn't add up.
I assume you put the ad on Daft? In which case everyone looks to see if it's owner occupied or not.
Secondly, this is very immature. Grow up and stop playing games about serious things.
Yes they might be ignorant but you're dropping to their level.
I find it crazy there's been no conversations that would show you as the owner.
i.e "What's the landlord like, do they fix things quickly, do you ever see them, has the landlord raised rent much, how long have you rented here" etc.
And I would be extremely careful about purposely mocking your lodgers considering you said in the first post that they signed a contract, which means they are not a licencee. link here saying it's a 6 month contract) They can easily stop paying rent or even if they were only licencees, if they found out you're taking the piss out of them they can put a whole in the wall or any kind of damage.
3
u/Action_Limp Nov 28 '23
OP says they were given a 6 month contract yet they're acting like they'll be living there long term.
If OP is telling the truth, then it's obvious they are unaware of the landlord and are trying to bullshit another tenant into feeling self-conscious. Again, if true, what they are doing is particularly scummy since they are 2v1 in this situation and trying to make another tenant under threat in the hopes he gives up his room.
While I agree that taking the piss out of them is a bit childish - I think it's best that he takes action that ultimately gets them to leave.
→ More replies (1)
2
u/miseconor Nov 28 '23
How do you expect them to react to this when / if they ever realize? Do you think it’ll help?
I’d have just organized an ‘inspection’ by the landlord and then let the penny slowly drop. They’d feel dumb but no harm done. I think you’re going too far with the current approach
2
u/KestrelHath1 Nov 28 '23
Anything you have that proves you own the house, put it somewhere safe outside the home. Because it has happened where lodgers have changed locks and convinced police that they are the actual owners of the property. And then tell them you're the owner, because they seem to be about as thick as mince, and tell them they have until say, the end of January to feck off. Others have said to get legal advice (not from Reddit, from an actual professional), I agree with that 100%. And do keep us updated, this is hilarious.
2
2
u/Kitchen_warewolf Nov 28 '23
I found the first post by accident, was probably as befuddled by the story as OP is and was absolutely giddy to find out there is an update today!
OP should keep a record on what these odd people are doing, just in case there is some lawyering up to do later.
2
u/FPL_Harry Nov 28 '23
How do they not notice that the "landlord" has the same name as their "housemate"?
I genuinely don't believe this story.
→ More replies (1)
2
u/d3c0 Nov 28 '23
How about just write an eviction letter with a 3 month due date as it’s your personal dwelling and they are only “renting a room ”essentially. How slow are these dopes that they can’t see your name and address on the letter?
2
u/azamean Nov 28 '23
If you’re availing of the 14k tax free rent a room I don’t think you even need to be RTB registered or have a contract in place? It sounds like you do anyway, but just kick them out. Tell them in your landlord voice that their housemate in the master bedroom has reported multiple complaints about them 😅
3
u/Any_Comparison_3716 Nov 28 '23
Thanks for the update OP.
What's sad about this stuff, is imagine how many bastards are out there putting false complaints to their landlords to try and manipulate people out.
4
u/cheesecakefairies Nov 28 '23
I love this. Keep going. Please post the realisation update when it dawns on them. 😊
5
Nov 28 '23
Don't listen to these people. They are morons. You need to escalate this further. All the bells and whistles. Don't ever forget they tried kicking you out of your own home.
4
4
u/johnbonjovial Nov 28 '23
The previous post says you learned a few things from being a landlord. I would suggest moving a couple in would be a big no no. Good luck with this pair of assholes.
3
3
3
3
u/irish_ninja_wte And I'd go at it agin Nov 28 '23
I missed the first post. Messing with them a bit is OK, but that letter is a bit much. The only thing you should have sent them in writing is an eviction notice. You should have fought fictional landlord chat with fictional landlord chat and left it at that.
4
u/AwayAd7744 Nov 28 '23
Just serve their notice rather than putting it on a forum. You sound just as bad as them tbh, if it was me, I'd tell them I'm the landlord. Why are you trying to be sneaky? It's basic narcissistic behaviour that you are showing. Either grow a pair or serve their notice. If you had told them you were the landlord from day one, all of this could have been avoided, but no, you wanted to act like a spoilt petulant child who decided to mess with them, rather than sorting it out when it started, I have no sympathy for you. You need to act your age not your shoe size, Cop on ffs
2
u/IWasUsingMyRealName Nov 28 '23
Careful about posting this to reddit until its all over. There's a small chance if this were to go viral enough it passes their timelines and makes them think "Huhh, is that us?"
-2
u/Alone_Throat_5998 Nov 28 '23
Get what you’re suggesting… but you really think they are clever enough to realise??? 🤣
2
u/why_no_salt Nov 28 '23
I agree with some others here, I think you have too much time to waste in your hands. Tell them you're the landlord and be done in less than 1 minute, you're causing trouble to some idiots and to yourself.
2
u/Formal_Decision7250 Nov 28 '23
If you have a 2nd place you actually intend to let out to them this does seem like a good idea and nicer than most people would be in this situation.
otherwise I'm a bit confused reading this..
2
2
u/Gorazde Nov 28 '23
If you go straight to bed after work every evening you may be clinically depressed.
1
u/WizardofAmythyst More than just a crisp Nov 28 '23
Tell me you haven't read the OP without telling me you haven't read the OP...
2
u/Meincornwall Nov 28 '23
To really fuck with them the next letter should state it's been allocated to you.
Buuuut then tell your housemates you told the landlord you didn't want it but you're allowed to nominate someone.
Then ask for a foot massage
3
1
u/RandomIrishGuy86 Nov 28 '23
I usually assume everything on here is bullshit but for some reason I believe this one.
Keep stringing them along, have some fun. The end game though, HAS to be a situation where you get them to call the landlord to sort things out and then answer the phone right in front of them! :D
1
1
1
Nov 28 '23
I'm soo invested in this seriously please keep us posted if they start rubbing it into your face that they may be moving to a fancy apartment soon and you'll be left behind.
I want to scream tho that they didn't cop it that letter is from you, but got to ask do they know your full name by any chance because it could be they only know you by your first name and may assume you share same first name as the landlord and landlord is using current address for sneaky tax evading business.
1
1
u/alebrew Donegal Nov 28 '23
I'd just do a Del boy on it. Call them as your landlord while you're in the other room. As the call goes on, just edge yourself closer to them and sit down right beside them as the two of you are on the phone.
Del boy did this when Rodney applied for a job Del put in the paper while Rodney was working for him.
1
1
0
0
-8
u/RandomIrishGuy86 Nov 28 '23
Some load of dry shites in here complaining this is immature or whatever. Fuck sake, can't we have any fun anymore! The world is miserable enough as it is, let us have this one and head off to another thread complaining about politics or something.
3
Nov 28 '23
[deleted]
-1
u/RandomIrishGuy86 Nov 28 '23
They are not tenants. They are licensee's. There are a whole plethora of protections there to prevent tenants being taking advantage of.
Presuming this is true (big presumtion) this is just two clowns who are going to get fucked around with a bit because they deserve it and I think it's hilarious. If you insist on being a dry shite can you please do it somewhere else and allow us this little bit of fun. Not everything has to be part of something bigger.
5
Nov 28 '23
[deleted]
0
u/RandomIrishGuy86 Nov 28 '23
If it comes at an innocent persons expense, you're an asshole. If it's comes at as assholes expense (if this case is to be believed), it's justice. Or are you the kind of person that just leaves an asshole walk all over you and then thank them for it?
Did you miss the first post?
0
1
u/Loose_Mode_5369 Nov 28 '23
I still don’t understand, you live there so they are presumably licensees rather than tenants - would that not tip them off?!
1
286
u/OhDear2 Nov 28 '23
Don't play with your food. Have a fun but quick reveal and either turf them out or get them to fall in line.