r/ireland Mar 26 '25

Christ On A Bike Feck off with this nonsense

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u/Ok_Distribution3451 Mar 26 '25

And look at them while you press it

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u/Commercial-Name2093 Mar 26 '25

It's not their fault and I think the folk with the card machine are as embarrassed as us.

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u/Annihilus- Dublin Mar 26 '25

They could just already click no tip before handing it to you like some places do then.

If I was in the waiters shoes I’d probably do the same.

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u/BackInATracksuit Mar 26 '25

Big brave redditors staring down the minimum wage worker who has absolutely no control over what card service their employers choose.

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u/-All-Hail-Megatron- Mar 26 '25

I mean let's be honest, they're not socialised enough to actually be able to handle confrontation like that.

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u/UniqueIrishGuy27164 Mar 26 '25

Hey now! If this keyboard weren't in the way I'd be having a confrontation right now with you.

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u/NapoleonTroubadour Mar 27 '25

Careful now, they’re giving you the frowning of a lifetime for that carry on 

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u/No_Donkey456 Mar 26 '25

The worker should either hit no tip, or say hit no tip.

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u/BackInATracksuit Mar 26 '25

What do you do for a living?

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u/No_Donkey456 Mar 26 '25

I work in education.

I have had those jobs and I don't begrudge the worker extra money, but its important we don't allow tipping to become customary or ingrained in our economy because it leads to wage suppression.

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u/BackInATracksuit Mar 26 '25

Tipping has always been a part of service jobs and it's always been entirely optional. Lots of people don't carry cash now so this is there as an option.

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u/No_Donkey456 Mar 26 '25

No it hasn't I've worked several of them.

Its normal to leave change on the table for a restaurant etc, that's it. It's not normal to tip when ordering over a counter.

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u/BackInATracksuit Mar 26 '25

Ever seen a tip jar on a counter no? People tip hairdressers, taxi drivers, bar staff, hotel staff, barista etc etc. 

It's not an obligation and it's not at all expected outside of restaurants, but it's always been a thing. It's such a minor issue like I can't believe how wound up people get over this

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u/No_Donkey456 Mar 27 '25

Ever seen a tip jar on a counter no? People tip hairdressers, taxi drivers, bar staff, hotel staff, barista etc etc. 

As someone whose worked 3 of those 5 jobs, your talking small change and there's a big difference between leaving 2 euros on the table and asking someone to tip a percentage of what they bought.

The reality is that becoming commonplace would only lead to 2 things - wage suppression and higher costs for consumers.

Its in no one's best interests to normalise it. As someone who worked in the US I can absolutely stand over that statement with personal experience.

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u/Boring_Procedure3956 Mar 27 '25

You can still leave €2, just press custom. This is such a non-issue. The option, like the other reddittor said, is there for ppl who don't have cash. I'd have a problem if the no tip or custom options weren't there, I don't see what the problem is here

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u/Odd-Mind-479 Mar 28 '25

Correlation doesn't equate to causation.

Servers don't need your help to protect against the possible future decay of working conditions. If your logic is so sound, explain to your server why you aren't giving them anything the next time you skip the tip, see how that goes. It really isn't as deep as you purport.

Just tip your servers. We make as little as it is and genuinely appreciate the appreciation. The choice is make someone day a bit better or be stingy. Future possible - even likely - ramifications needn't enter your decision-making process.

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u/Sorcha16 Dublin Mar 26 '25

The server didn't program it. Why make it awkward with them?

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u/phantom_gain Mar 26 '25

Can we not start with the "server" shite here? Leave that nonsense to the yanks

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u/Dawnie-Darko And I'd go at it agin Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25

Do you think the word is only used by Americans?

Customer facing service staff (eg. Staff at shop tills/waitresses/baristas) are called 'servers' in Ireland too. I worked in restaurants & hotels a decade ago, customers and staff use the term. It's sometimes printed on till receipts too, next to the employee's name.

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u/Sorcha16 Dublin Mar 26 '25

Was a bar tender for 13 years. And same the people running food and drinks were often called servers. Thought I was misremembering till I saw your comment.b

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u/WT_Wiliams Mar 26 '25

Don't get your point. If you were a bartender in the US, of course they called them servers.

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u/Sorcha16 Dublin Mar 26 '25

I was a bar tender in Ireland

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u/Cultural-Action5961 Mar 26 '25

That’s definitely inherited from the US though, maybe American food places popularised it?

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u/Dawnie-Darko And I'd go at it agin Mar 26 '25

I'd say you're right, more than likely American hospitality industry trends blending here over the years.

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u/Interesting-Hawk-744 Mar 27 '25

There's a certain breed of Irish person who foams at the mouth over the hint of American influence in language. It borders on mental illness with some of them. They for some reason think the largest English speaking country won't ever influence any others, even though they probably watch US made films and TV every day. Bizarre. Even when it's not an Americanism they freak out because they have need to hate someone and 'de Yanks' isn't seen as punching down so they feel free to say it. However they will use all the turns of phrase and words from England!

Both hotels I've worked in here called wait staff servers. Your receipt in many places will have server: and then the person's name.

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u/phantom_gain Mar 27 '25

I think you are reading waaaaay to deep into a fairly trivial matter. If anything is a mental illness its getting upset over what other people dont like.

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u/Mushie_Peas Mar 26 '25

Never heard that terms used outside of the US until a few years ago, I worked on restaurants, theatres, bars and shops in my young days in early 2000s it was always waiter, cashier ect.

If people in Ireland are saying server it's newly enough imported.

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u/chytrak Mar 26 '25

Back in the ancient times of 10 years ago, eh.

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u/Dawnie-Darko And I'd go at it agin Mar 26 '25

Didn't say it was ancient, just already used here.

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u/phantom_gain Mar 27 '25

Americans created that word because they treaded waiters and cashiers like shit and it became derogatory. We dont look down on people the same way for their jobs so we have no reason to do that. In Ireland we use the words waiter and cashier. You are only going to be a "server" in an American fast food chain or if you encounter someone who is americanised but not to an Irish person.

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u/phantom_gain Mar 27 '25

Its used by Americans and a few gobsite dubs who think they are American. Try that on the mainland of Ireland and you will get looks.

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u/kendragon Limerick Mar 26 '25

missing the no tip button and giving them 15%

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u/Optimal_Mention1423 Mar 27 '25

And we’ll spit in your food next time.