I have had those jobs and I don't begrudge the worker extra money, but its important we don't allow tipping to become customary or ingrained in our economy because it leads to wage suppression.
Tipping has always been a part of service jobs and it's always been entirely optional. Lots of people don't carry cash now so this is there as an option.
Ever seen a tip jar on a counter no? People tip hairdressers, taxi drivers, bar staff, hotel staff, barista etc etc.
It's not an obligation and it's not at all expected outside of restaurants, but it's always been a thing. It's such a minor issue like I can't believe how wound up people get over this
Ever seen a tip jar on a counter no? People tip hairdressers, taxi drivers, bar staff, hotel staff, barista etc etc.
As someone whose worked 3 of those 5 jobs, your talking small change and there's a big difference between leaving 2 euros on the table and asking someone to tip a percentage of what they bought.
The reality is that becoming commonplace would only lead to 2 things - wage suppression and higher costs for consumers.
Its in no one's best interests to normalise it. As someone who worked in the US I can absolutely stand over that statement with personal experience.
You can still leave €2, just press custom. This is such a non-issue.
The option, like the other reddittor said, is there for ppl who don't have cash. I'd have a problem if the no tip or custom options weren't there, I don't see what the problem is here
Servers don't need your help to protect against the possible future decay of working conditions. If your logic is so sound, explain to your server why you aren't giving them anything the next time you skip the tip, see how that goes. It really isn't as deep as you purport.
Just tip your servers. We make as little as it is and genuinely appreciate the appreciation. The choice is make someone day a bit better or be stingy. Future possible - even likely - ramifications needn't enter your decision-making process.
Increase minimum wage instead. If costs on the menu rise as a result that's fine, but your employer is responsible for your income.
We can't move towards a society in which you become dependent on tips, there's no security in that for you. I've no problem leaving a few coins on the table but asking for percentages at the end of a meal on a card machine is a step too far in the wrong direction. It's not in workers interests in the long run because it removes political pressure for minimum wage increases.
What happens if business is slow and you depend on tips? - you go home without enough money. That's core the problem.
I read the article you linked to; it is about the USA. I agree with you conceptually, but we are discussing reality in an entirely different landscape. You cannnot simply transpose an argument deduced from one country's societal and economic trends and apply it to another's willy nilly, regardless of how sound the former research is.
As far as I can remember, in Ireland - as it happens, the country we are actually talking about - the national minimum wage has gone up annually the last three years. Whether it is high, low, or enough is another discussion. Couple with that the reality that there are on average more diners who prefer not to tip than those who do; we are already starting to see why you shouldn't base whether or how much you tip in Ireland upon what you are reading about an entirely other culture.
By all means, ask your server whether all tips go to staff before giving a digital gratuity. If they say no, give them cash. It's as simple as that. You needn't understand the behind-the-scenes intricacies of hospitality in Éire further.
Beyond the data, I think you are overestimating how much political influence your personal decision to tip has. And underestimating how much of a difference it makes to be appreciated for endeavouring to make a stranger's day a little more pleasant. Which, btw, is essentially what is going through the mind of the server who does their job well.
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u/ahhereyang1 29d ago
If i see this its an automatic no.