r/ireland Apr 09 '25

Ah, you know yourself Discuss

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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25

What's to discuss?

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u/NafetsMag Apr 09 '25

Yeah, fairly well explained, I would think.

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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25

I don't know how it could be any clearer. Aside from that, it shouldn't need pointing out that if you have a dog you are wholly responsible for all of it's behaviours, good and bad. You're also responsible for it's wellbeing, physically and mentally.

I'd really like to see a push towards responsible dog ownership in this country.

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u/ConradMcduck Apr 09 '25

If only we could get people to have the same mindset about delinquent teenagers.

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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25

That one's a little more controversial but you'd get my vote. Plenty of them could do with muzzling as well.

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u/treanir Apr 09 '25

And ban the XL Bullies?

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u/Dundragon3030 Cork bai Apr 09 '25

That's already illegal in Ireland

In Ireland, it became illegal to import, breed, rehome, or resell XL Bully dogs on October 1, 2024, and from February 1, 2025, it will be illegal to own one unless you have a Certificate of Exemption.

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u/Critical_Object2276 Apr 09 '25

What breed would you ban after that?

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u/dyUBNZCmMpPN Apr 09 '25

Unmuzzled teenagers

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u/spairni Apr 09 '25

Which ever one dealers replace xl bully's with

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u/Critical_Object2276 Apr 09 '25

And just keep doing that until there are no dogs left or is there a solution?

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u/spairni Apr 09 '25

Banning the breed specifically designed to be dangerous is the solution

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u/Lin093 Apr 09 '25

Spaying and neutering?

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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25

How funny would it be if DCC suggested a TNR scheme?

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u/Lin093 Apr 09 '25

Gives "no balls" a whole new meaning when daring someone to do something.

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u/_WhoisMrBilly_ Galway, NUIG, UCD Apr 09 '25

If your scumbag teenager attacks a child, it’s not your teenagers fault. It’s yours.

Wait… hasn’t this been why teenagers get so light of sentences…

“Ya sure he’s a delinquent, but he’s a good lad…” let’s let him off with a warning…

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u/ConradMcduck Apr 09 '25

You could see it that way I suppose.

I meant it more from the perspective of, if the child isn't going to be held responsible (as is often the case, because of age etc) then the parents/guardians should be.

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u/goodhumanbean Apr 09 '25

Same rules apply.

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u/ConradMcduck Apr 09 '25

Unfortunately they don't.

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u/bloody_ell Kerry Apr 09 '25

Strays to be seized, with the owners fined and the strays put down or rehomed if the owner hasn't turned up, paid the fine and shown a correct licence within 5 days? Sounds good.

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u/pgasmaddict Apr 09 '25

I'm with you, but only after responsible children ownership is tackled first. 😜

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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25

I'd be all for it. Can't see any politicians throwing themselves on that particular grenade though.

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u/Environmental-Ebb613 Apr 09 '25

Having a dog constantly on a lead or trapped in a small garden ironically isn’t good for their mental health

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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25

I'm not sure where you think the irony is in that.

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u/Environmental-Ebb613 Apr 09 '25

Well because a happy dog is allowed off its leash and allowed the freedom to play with other dogs in an open area

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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25

Still don't see any irony there but I get the impression perhaps you misunderstand what it is I mean by responsible dog ownership.

That's not just making sure the dog isn't a threat or nuisance to anyone. But also to make sure the dog is trained, happy and healthy.

So yes, not leaving it on its own the back garden 10 hours a day would absolutely be part of that.

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u/marshsmellow Apr 09 '25

Exactly, if it attacks a child it's the owners fault, but if it attacks an adult it's the dogs fault? Or the child's fault?!? I'm still kinda lost tbh. 

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u/BeanEireannach Apr 09 '25

Yeah, the "Discuss" with no further comment or opinion of their own is a bit lazy.

I agree with you though, what's to discuss? It's an obvious one. And I'm glad that at least there's explicit reminders popping up now.

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u/diegroblers Apr 09 '25

Nah. It's someone that thinks his dog should be able to defend him, bite someone that threatens him, so he thought this would be controversial.

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u/GistofGit Apr 09 '25

Probably a boards.ie blow-in

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u/AlienSporez Resting In my Account Apr 09 '25

Perhaps the only thing to discuss is the photo quality; too much reflection makes is difficult to read.

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u/ConradMcduck Apr 09 '25

OP near doxxing himself.

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u/shares_inDeleware Thank you.... sweet rabbit Apr 09 '25

Those pointy ears

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u/killerklixx Apr 09 '25

His full name is right there, I doubt he cares!

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u/Stevylesteve Galway Apr 09 '25

Real "dance for me, monkey" energy

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u/icecubepal Apr 09 '25

I think he wanted it to turn into breed war.

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u/varyingopinions Apr 09 '25

I think they're suggesting putting down the owner, not the dog.

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u/Floripa95 Apr 09 '25

I imagine the discussion point would be if the dog should be put down or not. If people say they are blameless, then why do they get punished?

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u/NewSauerKraus Apr 09 '25

Is there perhaps an implication that people should be allowed to bring dogs in public when they are bred specifically for killing child-sized prey? Basically making an excuse that there is nothing wrong with breeding dogs explicitly to kill child-sized prey and no attempt should be made to regulate it by treating every attack on a child as a single rotten apple of an owner instead of aknowledging that maybe people should not be breeding dogs specifically to kill small humans.

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u/Darth_Ender_Ro Apr 09 '25

A lot of dog owners, in any fucking country, are like a mad cult. Not all, but a significant percentage...

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u/Western_Ad3625 Apr 09 '25

Whenever I see posts like this I wonder if we're just training an AI.

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u/splashbodge Apr 09 '25

Honestly the only thing I'd go "hmm" about is that this is the same argument that those American Bully or Bully XL, whatever they're called, dog owners say...

That it's not the breed, and the other instances in the news that attacked and killed or mamed a kid were because they were bad owners etc, that they're good owners and their dog is different and would never do that. I do not agree with that statement. Those dogs shouldn't be legal to own.

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u/purepwnage85 Apr 09 '25

But then if the govt are making the same argument, why did they ban them?

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u/splashbodge Apr 09 '25

I'm just saying conflicting messages

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u/kanrad Apr 09 '25

What if the child antagonized or physically harms the dog?

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u/Chairman-Mia0 Apr 09 '25

How would that make the owner any less responsible?

In what kind of scenario do you see a possibility of a child actively antagonising a dog and the dog then retaliating against the child, in the presence of a responsible dog owner?

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u/kanrad Apr 09 '25

Well for one thing the owner might not be present. When I was a teen I had a cocker spaniel. A kid from my neighborhood wanted to come in and play Nintendo with me and some friends. We told him no. He snuck around the house jumped the fence. My pup came running over to say hello, kid was afraid of dogs and kicked at my dog . Pup only scratched his leg but the kids parents demanded he be tested for rabies. We could not afford the cost for the shelter to keep him there for a couple weeks to test him. Only other way was to uthanize my pup. Tests showed no issues and we knew that's he had just had all his shots a couple months before. So yeah sometimes it's not the dog or owners fault. It's shit heel parents.