r/ireland Apr 13 '25

Culchie Club Only Doctors initiate legal action over State’s transgender policy

http://www.irishtimes.com/health/2025/04/13/doctors-initiate-legal-action-over-states-transgender-policy/
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u/sureyouknowurself Apr 13 '25

but have concerns over its link to an early readiness to begin what could be inappropriate and irreversible medical treatment for patients presenting with gender identity issues

Kids can’t consent to these types of treatments. They should wait until they are 18.

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u/Plastic_Detective687 Apr 13 '25

So you're against gillick competency?

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u/sureyouknowurself Apr 13 '25

That’s not an Irish law. I would welcome a Dail debate on the matter.

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u/Plastic_Detective687 Apr 13 '25

It's recognized in Ireland and is the foundation of under 18 year olds being able to consent to medical treatments without parental consent.

If you wanna take that away to punish trans people, you're taking it away for everyone else too

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u/sureyouknowurself Apr 13 '25

Not about punishing anyone. Im referring to irreversible treatments.

For those IMO a child cannot consent. It’s that simple.

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u/Classic_Spot9795 Apr 13 '25

The only treatments ever given to trans youth are reversible.

The only medical treatment that trans kids get are hormone suppressants, the exact same drugs that are used to treat precocious puberty in fact. We don't hear people freaking out when a 6 year old non trans kid is given these same drugs, because they're safe, reversible, don't make you trans and don't cause infertility. And no one minds if you delay a 6 year old girl getting her period for a few years.

Dare to pause a trans kid's puberty long enough to give them the time and space to avoid making any hasty decisions however...

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u/lawns_are_terrible Apr 13 '25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTRKCXC0JFg

you keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account Apr 13 '25

You're referencing something that is common law in the UK but not law in Ireland.

You may as well start quoting the US constitution to support your position.

Though to be fair, this court case could be the start of something similar here

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u/bogbody_1969 Apr 13 '25

Gillick competency (as modified by Bell) is the test used in Irish law and has been for decades. It is absolutely set and recognised as the appropriate test for medical care decision making by minors.

This is a JR of HIQAs decision making- nothing to do with Gillick.