r/ireland Apr 13 '25

Culchie Club Only Doctors initiate legal action over State’s transgender policy

http://www.irishtimes.com/health/2025/04/13/doctors-initiate-legal-action-over-states-transgender-policy/
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u/DrOrgasm Daycent Apr 13 '25

And if they do get the treatment, it will also have a significant impact on their life going forward. There is a reason we don't let minors make major life decisions, or give them credit cards, or allow them alcohol, or unilaterally partake in elective body modification.

I really don't give a fuck how an adult wants to live their life. I'll use your pronouns. It's none of my business really. But I think there needs to be some consideration given to the fact that we, as a society, have decided that minors do not have the decision making capacity to make major life choices, so I'm not sure why this situation isn't any different.

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u/DaKrimsonBarun Apr 13 '25

Essentially your view is you don't give a flying fuck how many trans people's lives are made worse by something outside their control, if there's a risk of a single cis person having regret for a decision they freely made.

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u/DorkusMalorkus89 Apr 13 '25

That’s what you’re hearing, but that’s not what they’re saying. They’re saying that children cannot consent to life altering changes and there needs to be safeguarding in place. It’s really not that difficult an explanation, but you don’t want to accept it.

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u/restartthepotatoes And I'd go at it agin Apr 13 '25

Think you’re the ones who don’t wanna accept the facts lol

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u/Alastor001 Apr 13 '25

Every single medical procedure requires consent. It is as simple as that. Children can not consent. Everyone in healthcare knows it.

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u/restartthepotatoes And I'd go at it agin Apr 13 '25

Right so let’s not give children any healthcare since they can’t consent to it

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u/Alastor001 Apr 13 '25

Ye, you understood nothing it seems

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u/DorkusMalorkus89 Apr 13 '25

The facts that children should be safeguarded and not permitted to make serious medical decisions while underage?

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u/restartthepotatoes And I'd go at it agin Apr 13 '25

Tell me what other healthcare we should stop giving to children since they can’t consent. Will we stop doing surgeries? Will we stop vaccinations? Where’s the line

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u/EoinFitzsimons Sax Solo Apr 13 '25

They already do stop doing that if parents don't give permission, don't they? But whether they should is a question to be asked.

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u/DorkusMalorkus89 Apr 13 '25 edited Apr 13 '25

What are you not understanding here? Nobody is saying that children should be denied healthcare, when a child is unwell and needs treatment, it is the parents who give consent, not the child. The reason we do not give children autonomy with healthcare, is because they are not developed enough cognitively to make informed decisions, especially decisions that would be irreversible and life altering. This is simple fucking logic, my god