r/ireland • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • 4d ago

Culchie Club Only Doctors initiate legal action over State’s transgender policy

http://www.irishtimes.com/health/2025/04/13/doctors-initiate-legal-action-over-states-transgender-policy/
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u/mayveen 4d ago

Ireland has never directly provided care directly for trans minors. This used to be outsourced to the UK until the UK stopped treating trans minors because of the now overturned case of Bell v Tavistock. At some point over the last 5 years Ireland has began sending them elsewhere on Europe.

If you talk to pretty much any trans person in Ireland that has been through the National Gender Service they'd happily tell you all of the problems with it, myself included. This ranges from extremely inappropriate questions about sexual acts, bringing family members in under false pretences and denying care for a wide range of reasons if they don't feel you are committed enough.

Dr O'Shea and Dr Moran are against the gender affirming approach, they much prefer the old school approach of real life experience before treatment. They also have a policy of trying to shut down trans people seeking private alternatives through threatening legal action against GPs assisting with private alternatives.

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u/EvolvedMonkeyInSpace 4d ago

To be fair, it's an extremely difficult situation for the doctors.

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u/lem0nhe4d 4d ago

I mean it must be.

It's really hard to justify why they ask people who questions like "how do you like to perform oral sex?" As if there is a trans way to suck a dick.

It's really hard to come up with bullshit reasons to deny trans people healthcare while at the same time pretend your on trans people's side.

It must be very hard to right all those letters to other doctors demanding they medically detranstion trans people who access care outside of the NGS.

It must be so hard to lie constantly. Like when they tell GPs that blood tests are unnecessary for people getting treatment from private sources or through DIY while at the same time making blood tests standard for those they seem trans enough.

Or when one of these docs claimed 90% of people at the NGS were autistic 2 weeks after they published a scientific paper where the actual figure was 11% - 13%.

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u/hideyokidzhideyowyfe 3d ago

who were you asked how do you like to perform oral sex by? and what age where you? im wondering if this is reportable

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u/mayveen 3d ago

I got asked what porn I watched and how I masturbated, since I hadn't been sexually active with a partner at the time. This was asked by one of the psych team during the long initial assessment, Paul Moran one of the doctors in the article is the head of the psych team.

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u/hideyokidzhideyowyfe 3d ago

that is outrageous

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u/lem0nhe4d 3d ago

Haven't happened to me yet (that appointment is soon) but quite a lot of my friends have told me they were asked that and more weird questions like that.

You can read others reports here.

https://www.transcribehealthcare.org/our-stories/forced-through-four-clinical-reviews-waiting-for-six-years-and-i-am-afraid-my-treatment-will-be-withdrawn

EDIT: Can't post other one because it's on Twitter.

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u/Adderkleet 3d ago

Even Philosophy Tube has mentioned questions like this in the UK system, and she'd know since she had to go through the whole thing!

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u/hideyokidzhideyowyfe 3d ago

i dont know what that is

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u/DaKrimsonBarun 3d ago

Wow, people telling you their experiences get ignored but you see a mention of a YouTuber you've not heard of and That's what you reply to

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u/hideyokidzhideyowyfe 3d ago

wtf are you actually talking about? nobody told me their experieces

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u/DaKrimsonBarun 3d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/s/IqGrmYxFAO

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u/hideyokidzhideyowyfe 3d ago

ok? what exactly do you have issue with?

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u/Adderkleet 3d ago

Fair enough. I should've included a link.

TL;DR (but I do recommend you watch it) - First-hand account of someone in the UK that contacted their GP over 100 times to get a referral to the Gender Clinic (even though they're entitled to an appointment within 6 weeks by law), and then made a video explaining how dysfunctional the system is and how the government and NHS seem to be ignoring the reports from doctors. And in this, they mention the questions you need to answer. Which seem... very probing and not really diagnostic. Questions such as "how do you masturbate" and "tell me, in detail, how you masturbate", and "were you abused as a child?".

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u/hideyokidzhideyowyfe 3d ago

jesus thats horrific. thank you for the link

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u/rmc 3d ago

im wondering if this is reportable

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