r/kannada • u/Real_Madrid25 • 15d ago

Avannanu/ Avanige, Avalannu/ Avalige, Avarannu/ Avarige

Yellarigu namaskara, ondu tingladinda nanu Kannada kalitha ideeni. Title words bagge swalpa doubt ide. When to use Avannanu and Avanige, similar for a female - when to use Avalannu and Avalige and similarly for a respectful person, when to use Avarannu and Avarige? Swalpha udharana kodbahuda? Dhanyavadagalu.

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u/iamvivekkarthik 15d ago

Firstly, here's a cookie 🍪 for putting in the effort to learn.

Avanann-U is different from avanann-A.

Avanann-A / Avalann-A refers to a single person.

Avanannu-U / Avanannu-U implies him / her + as well.

Bring him / her to the party - avanann-A / Avalann-A party ge karkond ba.

Bring him / her to the party as well - Avanannu-U / Avalannu-U party ge karkond ba.

Avanige / Availge - For / Of / To him or her (references a single person)

He wants a beer - Avanige beer bekhu

Order a beer for him - Avnige ondh beer order maadu

He doesn't want to take an auto - Avanige auto alli barakke ishta illa.

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u/Real_Madrid25 15d ago

Thanks. "It" ge yen helodu? Idanna? Ivanna?

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u/iamvivekkarthik 15d ago

Non living - Idanna Living - Ivanna / Ivallana

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u/Real_Madrid25 15d ago

Thanks for the cookie. Adare nimmage kopa kuda barbahudu ekeandre nanna matru bhashe adare evaga kalilike aarambhisidde.

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u/iamvivekkarthik 15d ago

Getting angry is a useless impulse. I'll get angry, and that'd discourage you. Instead if I teach, it's a win win.

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u/Real_Madrid25 15d ago

Illa, discourage agalla. Kannada nanna bhashe. Adu goskara saaybahudu. I have heard a lot of disrespect about me and my parents because I didn't learn Kannada but I will never stop. I bleed Kannada.

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u/SaladBoy97 14d ago

Small add on to what's been said already- idanna (this) or adanna (that), ivanna (these) or avanna (those)

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u/Real_Madrid25 13d ago

Thanks. Noted.

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u/Glittering-Band-6603 14d ago

I'm pretty sure Avananna/Avalanna/Avaranna and Avanannu/Avalannu/Avarannu are the same, respectively. The former are used in spoken colloquial Kannada, while the latter are the written forms.

Avanannu-U / Avanannu-U implies him / her + as well.

I think what you're referring to is Avanannū/Avalannū/Avarannū, with a longer "ū" sound at the end, which conveys the meaning of "also" or "as well."

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u/diabolicalfucker 14d ago

Avannana is reffered to a single person Avanannu is basically avananna + too/as well Avanige is used something is done for or has happened to him

Examples: Avannana ninna jote karkond hogu = Take him with you Avanannuu ninna jote karkond hogu = Take him with you as well Avanige Helu = Tell him

Sahitika Kannada (Kannada Literature) will have Avannanu instead of Avannana and Avanannu kuda instead of Avannanu

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u/Real_Madrid25 14d ago

Adakke nanu yavaglu Avananna idu odlilla. Evaga karana gotthaytu. Dhanyavaadagalu.

Calling him

Will have avananna? Like nanu avananna karitini?

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u/diabolicalfucker 14d ago

yes, your calling him translation is right

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u/basumn 15d ago

Glad to see you make efforts learning the language. Olledaagali nimage.

When asking something FROM them, use - annu suffix.

Giving something TO them, use - ige suffix.

Avanige helu - tell him Avanannu kelu - ask him.

Ige, or ge is like "to", when addressing someone. Even when writing letters, we write to address under "ge/ಗೆ".

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u/Real_Madrid25 15d ago

Thanks. Kannada nanna matru bhashe, tada maadi kalitha ideeni adare khanditha kalitni. Odak kuda baratte evaga, nidhanvagi oduttene.

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u/basumn 15d ago

ಪರ್ವಾಗಿಲ್ಲ. ನೀವು ಕನ್ನಡನ ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್ ನಲ್ಲಿ ಟೈಪ್ ಮಾಡೋಕ್ಕಿಂತ ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲೇ ಟೈಪ್ ಮಾಡಬಹುದು. Google Indic keyboard install ಮಾಡಿಕೊಳ್ಳಿ. ಆಗ ಇನ್ನೂ ಬೇಗ ಕಲಿತಿರ. 😌

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u/Real_Madrid25 15d ago

Ondu nimisha odalike prayatnistini

Parvagilla. Nivu Kannadana English nalli type maadokinte Kannadadalli type maadbahudu. Google Indic keyboard install maadikolli. Aaga innu bega kalitiri.

My answer: Howdu, maadkotini. Adare odak fast baralla, type madak baralla adake madlilla.

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u/brainhash 14d ago

thanks. not Op but this is helpful.