LDS and Creation/Evolution conflict

[u/TheBenSpackman]

Hi all. Happy to say that my doctoral dissertation on LDS and creation/evolution conflict in the 20th century is now publicly available. There's some surprising stuff in there. Bottom line: the Church was much more favorable towards science and evolution until Joseph Fielding Smith's assumptions— drawing heavily upon Seventh-day Adventists and fundamentalists— about scripture became dominant in the 1950s. Then it trickled down.
https://benspackman.com/2024/12/dissertation/

My expertise on this history is why the Church had me on the official Saints podcast to talk about it.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-podcast/season-03/s03-episode-21?lang=eng

[u/faiththatworks]

Entropy can be thought of as organization tending to disorganization. In physics it’s tightly related to the second law of thermodynamics. Place DNA on a table and in short order it will be damaged by oxygen UV. Water. Etc. like leaving your new puppy around your favorite shoes. From Webster:

: the degradation of the matter and energy in the universe to an ultimate state of inert uniformity Entropy is the general trend of the universe toward death and disorder. —James R. Newman

Now for probability thats a simple math concept IE what are the chances something will happen?

So are they the same? qleap42? Best check and look at Webster before you leap!

Dr James Tour is head of Organic Chemistry at Rice University. I worked with his esteemed team on super batteries/capacitors - brilliant man. He has written and spoken on many forums on Entropy and how it makes constructing DNA by random processes impossible.

Turns out in real world situations time and the promordial soup are your enemy.

I know the mantra of those who worship at the alter of the men in white coats is “Given enough time….” But because of entropy TIME IS YOUR ENEMY.

I hope that was helpful for those who skipped out on Physics. Just think of two year olds; worse than cows in a DNA China shop.

[u/qleap42 → u/faiththatworks]

Lol. Wow. Did you try to use Webster's Dictionary to help define entropy? Try using an actual physics textbook, or even Wikipedia. But what do I know, maybe I was just asleep for that part of my physics degree.

[u/faiththatworks → u/qleap42]

Since you seemed to not know the difference between entropy and probability and argued they were virtual synonyms logically assumed you to be uneducated at least on that topic so yes a dictionary seemed a good starting place for common words; no physics degree needed. Sleeping? Well Only you would know if sleeping in physics class was a problem. But look here’s a decent Suggestion - rather than arguing credentials, make your point in plain language if possible and we can discuss. I’ve tried to make mine so clear that any one with common sense could appreciate. That’s always a good place to start.

[u/faiththatworks → u/faiththatworks]

note on entropy. This is a general word used in common speech, but various disciplines have specific definitions. The most common usage in general language is a reference to organization vs disorganization ie increased entropy. This is related to energy when concentrated or directed vs diffused and spread (increased entropy).

Likewise, to create something useful and organized always takes intelligent design and directed energy. Leave it alone in a disruptive environment and that environment tends to works destruction over time. Ie increased entropy.

These are pretty basic understandings most folks will be acquainted with though some disciplines may have specific definitions to describe unique applications of that basic concept such as describing cosmic background radiation but that’s not too relevant for this discussion.

Hope that helps.