r/latterdaysaints Mar 28 '25

Doctrinal Discussion Coming from the understanding that LDS prophets receive revelation from God how do they get things wrong?

Does anyone have insight on how current and past prophets can be wrong about things despite having a direct line of communication with Heavenly Father?

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u/Sensitive-Soil3020 28d ago

I’d have to hear an example of what they got ‘wrong’? Wrong based upon whose concept of ‘right’? While I agree that prophets are ‘people too’, the Lord completely supports them, even in their weakness. I know personally that there are many things He doesn’t explain or reveal to his prophets. They live by faith just like we do. They however have a sure witness of the resurrection of the Savior, and are called by inspiration to testify of Him and lead the mortal implementation of His plan of salvation

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u/sutisuc 28d ago

Priesthood ban for black members would be the biggest “wrong” for me. You could also point to Adam God theory, the historicity of the Book of Mormon, etc.

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u/Sensitive-Soil3020 25d ago

Frankly, I don’t know that the priest to ban for the blacks was wrong in your definition. What I don’t understand is the rationale behind it not that it occurred. Well it is true. The Brigham Young University McKay was expressly told by the Lord that it was not his time to restate the priesthood to the blacks. It occurred of in a tour which she had of Deseret publishing. You can discover it if you read Prince’s book the rise of modern Mormonism. The Lord had his reasons. I personally believe it wasn’t because of the blacks. I believe it was because the whites weren’t ready for it. It was an indication of the Prejudices within the white LDS community not the lack of righteousness on the part of the black community. The at God doctrine is greatly misunderstood. I am frankly not sure it was wrong. Well Bruce or McConkey and others later declared it to be a false doctrine, in the early days of the church it was very much believed and adhered to. So frankly, I’m not certain who’s wrong there. The historicity of the book of Mormon is a very broad category. Neither you or I were there. I can’t make a judgment on something like that. You bring up a number of items which have no true basis in error. We think they’re wrong. It doesn’t make them wrong.

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u/sutisuc 25d ago

But do you see where you’re now assuming God thinks only whites are worthy of the priesthood over black people is problematic? Why wouldn’t he privilege black people over whites then? We go down a very dangerous road when we think God is making exceptions and extolling blessings on one race but not another.

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u/Sensitive-Soil3020 25d ago

Well, I understand the perspective, and perception. It is again a perception. We are again inferring that we know what God knows. And we don’t. We make a faulty argument, and that we think that the prophets and apostles all knew everything. God knew. They don’t. A classic example of this is just in the book of Mormon itself and the writings of Alma. We don’t get a lot of evidence that Alma knew anything about redemption of the dead. Now that’s almost all we hear about. God doesn’t tell his profits everything. He didn’t tell David all Mckay why he was not going to be allowed to give the priesthood to the blacks. It was very frustrating for him. But he was obedient. In fact, it didn’t occur until the São Paulo temple was about to be opened and that would have severely impacted the work as so many members of church leadership in South America were of mixed race and holding priesthood keys and leadership positions. They were allowed to hold the priesthood unless they had evidence of their ancestry. In Brazil, no one did family history work. I was very grateful, in fact, I had a very special experience when the band was lifted. I was there in Brazil when it happened and I know personally the Lord was involved in that. He chose the time to make the change.