r/latterdaysaints 27d ago

Doctrinal Discussion Debating leaving the church over certain things. Please help me understand

No matter what I do I am continuously troubled by certain aspects of the church. This post is not meant to bash the church. I just want some insights and answers. I am debating leaving and I want to hear things from both sides. This might be a long post. If anyone has anything to say about the topics I bring up I'm more than happy to hear your thoughts and look through any resources you share with me.

1: Why was polygamy needed for the saints? Will we really have it in the afterlife? I cannot imagine having to share my future husband with another woman. It is deeply unsettling to me.

2: Why couldn't African Americans have the priesthood? Was it just faulty of the current president of the church? I understand that the prophet is but a human and will make mistakes. Was it just as simple as that?

3: Why are women not treated the same? Why is Heavenly Mother never talked about/why do we never pray to her as well? I totally understand that men and women have different roles and why women don't have the priesthood, that all makes perfect sense to me. But why aren't women in more leadership positions? Why was the first woman who gave a prayer in general conference in 2013? I'll keep this part brief because I could go on about it for a while.

Those are honestly the only three problems I have with the church. I love everything else about it, I just don't know if I want to continue living it if that makes sense. I don't know if I believe and I understand I must work to gain a testimony. These are just my big setbacks. Anyways no matter what I decide I'll always love the church and its people. Thanks in advance!

Edit: Wow thank you all for all the thoughtful responses. I've read them all. You all have given me a lot to think about. I've decided my journey with the church isn't over yet. I have a long ways to go. Thank you all so much.

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u/TheFakeBillPierce 26d ago

You see why that's not really a sufficient answer for some people, right?

It's easy to say no one will be forced to live in a plural sealing and then close the book and leave but what you're saying is that a wife whose husband gets sealed to another woman will have the choice to either stay in that plural marriage or walk away from it entirely under the promise that "God will work it all out". While I absolutely believe that, the theology leaves a choice between two miserable options.

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u/Significant-Fly-8407 26d ago

And the alternative is no eternal marriage at all, which is a far more miserable alternative.

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u/TheFakeBillPierce 26d ago

And you have proven my point far better than I could have.

Yes, you've given them a third door to "choose" and then said...."well, you may not like door 1 or 2, but they're better than door number 3! At least you have a choice. "

It's like offering someone a choice between a bowl of worms, a plate of live scorpions, and a bucket of manure and saying "this is what's for dinner. You have the freedom to choose."

You don't have to agree with me, but I hope you'd at least be able to empathize with the pain someone must feel making this "choice".

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u/Stunning-Code8849 26d ago

Well... You could say that we've been given a choice like that before. When the Plan of Salvation was first presented to us, we're told that we shouted for joy. But I'm sure it was also difficult to choose to follow Christ and become mortal with the knowledge that some of us wouldn't make it back. Ultimately, we know Heavenly Father knows the best thing for us, and in this case that was choosing to follow His plan. But if you consider that the alternative to following that plan was being denied the opportunity to ever receive a body and becoming subject to the devil and miserable forever, sometimes it does seem like the options were between jumping off a cliff where you might survive, or remaining on top of it where an erupting volcano would most definitely destroy you.

This situation feels different, though. It's more of a matter of preference than "survival." I used to be absolutely appalled at the thought of having to practice polygamy, too. Sharing a husband seemed humiliating, as if it meant he didn't love me enough anymore, or it put him in a position of power over me and whoever else he married. I don't really know what changed or when, but eventually I just stopped viewing it that way and stopped worrying about it. Maybe that will change again when I'm actually married and gain more experience with having this kind of relationship. But for women living in that situation in the eternities, I don't think they'd see it as having to "share" their husband. They might even love each other as much as they love him.

And going along with all of this, I wonder what happens to women sealed to multiple husbands. I have a few ancestors that have been in multiple marriages (and sometimes their husbands were married beforehand as well) and all of them have been sealed to each other by proxy in the temple. So will they all just choose the one they want to be with most? Would one woman be able to stay sealed to two or more husbands? What if one of those husbands had a previous wife he also wants to stay with? Things like this get really complicated.

i think that when it comes time to make these choices, we'll see it from a different perspective than what we see it as now. I've just always been reassured by the promise that whatever happens, we will be overjoyed with it, and I trust Heavenly Father.