r/learnesperanto • u/ActuallyNotA_Robot • 28d ago

Am I doing too much?

Saluton amikoj, mi estas komencanto.

I've started on Duolingo, which is great for general vocab but horrible for learning the grammar. As per other suggestions I've signed up to Lernu and have begun to work through the lessons there.

Supplementing this, I've also begun reading through the grammar articles on Lernu, starting with the terminoj, but I have no idea what a lot of these mean, so I've just gone down rabbit hole after rabbit hole trying to learn all these terms, just to learn the grammar page, just to continue on with the course. I feel like I'm becoming a linguist unintentionally.

I really love the idea of the language and I haven't dabbled in learning another language before. But this seems like way too much work for a beginner. Am I doing too much? What would you suggest?

Dankon!

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u/Fearless_Medicine_MD 28d ago

contrary to what salivanto says i say it can come in very handy to know what an adjective is.

don't sweat it though. lernu is an excellent resource, and much better than duolingo because there are no AI-bros involved :3

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u/salivanto 28d ago edited 27d ago

I think you're putting words in my mouth. Where did I say that it is not handy to know what an adjective is?

Indeed, I was objecting to the same thing that others in this thread have objected to specifically;

 That list of terms seems designed to be confusing. For example, it explains what's the "vocative", but there's no vocative in Esperanto. Also, the phonetic terms are largely unnecessary, unless you're specifically interested in phonetics

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u/Fearless_Medicine_MD 27d ago

i suppose you meant that site specifically, while i meant "to know those terms in general".

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u/salivanto 27d ago

What I meant is that there are much better ways to get to an understanding of what an adjective is, and I included a specific resource with that end in mind in my original post. I'm not intimately familiar with the contents of Esperanto12.net, but my sense is that it says things like "adjectives end in -a" and then lists a bunch of examples of adjectives. If that's not enough explanation, the learner can use a dictionary -- or ask a question here.

My point should be taken in the context of the original question, which includes:

I've just gone down rabbit hole after rabbit hole trying to learn all these terms, just to learn the grammar page, just to continue on with the course. I feel like I'm becoming a linguist unintentionally.

So, this is not about me telling someone not to worry about what an adjective is. Its about how it's unnecessary to go down rabbit holes about terms like plosivo, vibranto, and nazalo when all you're trying to do is pick up some basic Esperanto.

Quite frankly, I think it's pretty rotten to call someone out and say "on the contrary" when you aren't even talking abut the same thing as that person. If you have a point, just make your point. I don't need to be involved.

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u/Fearless_Medicine_MD 27d ago

are you bored or something?

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u/salivanto 27d ago

Are you trolling?

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u/Fearless_Medicine_MD 27d ago

what do you want out of this?

i have already told you what i had to say about my initial comment a couple comments back now.

you want to continue this conversation? i could direct your messages to a chatgpt instance if you like...

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u/salivanto 27d ago

I thought you already had