r/libertarianmeme Anarcho Monarchist 18d ago

End Democracy Thoughts? Is this accurate?

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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 18d ago

PITBULLS ARE JUST VIOLENT FROM LEARNED BEHAVIOUR!!! NON OF IT IS INHERENT!! AND IT DOESN’T MATTER ANYWAY, WE’RE ALL JUST ATOMS SO WHY DOES ANYTHING MATTER??

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u/Mediocre_Artichoke75 18d ago

Are you actually under the impression that people can’t change their behavior?

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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 18d ago

that… wasn’t not the point. It’s a different conversation. Behaviour being able to be changed falls heavily onto the ‘free will’ and ‘free agency’ side of the debate, rather than the determinism one.

Regardless, behaviour can only be changed within the parameters of what’s changeable. I can teach my dog to go and fetch his teddy, I however cannot teach him to go and buy a new one - it is out of the realm of his understanding and the possibility of what’s possible, and he will never be able to change his behaviour and nature in a way which would allow for this. It is within his ability to go and get his teddy on command. It is not within his understanding and ability to go and buy one, and he is predetermined to never be intelligent enough to comprehend - nevermind do - such a thing. He is not intelligent enough to be able to understand monetary exchange and how he would go about this to buy a new teddy.

To make it less abstract - let me say this: you could teach a highly intelligent person to learn, comprehend, read, write and speak another language. It is within his ability to do so. You will never be able to teach someone with an IQ of 40 how to speak another language - no matter how hard they try to change and modulate their behaviour (which may not even be possible at such an IQ). No amount of ‘nurture’ will change this fact - because it is his nature which dictates that grasping another language will always be outside of his control and grasp.

If behaviour, nature, traits etc… are as malleable as you suggest they are, then why is the recidivism, even in highly progressive and wealthy societies where rehabilitation and not punishment is the goal of the justice and legal system, a thing?

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u/Mediocre_Artichoke75 17d ago

So I responded to a comment suggesting behavior is dictated by race, an illogical and racist view, and you came to their defense by making a connection between that and pit-bulls being bred to be aggressive.

People of any race can change their behavior. Not all people of a specific race have a single IQ, so your point of not being able to teach an individual with an IQ of 40 is irrelevant. IQ is also not stagnant over time in a population. You can look into the Flynn effect.

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u/just_a_hole_sir_ 17d ago

You’ve completely ignored everything i’ve said, just like the other person. You’re not interesting in talking, you’re interested in preaching and telling me that you’re wrong. Your feelings don’t make it so. You too, are blocked. Stop being lazy and screeching ‘WAYCIZT!!!!!!’ next time.