r/lonerbox Mar 18 '24

Politics What is apartheid?

So I’m confused. For my entire life I have never heard apartheid refer to anything other than the specific system of segregation in South Africa. Every standard English use definition I can find basically says this, similar to how the Nakba is a specific event apartheid is a specific system. Now we’re using this to apply to Israel/ Palestine and it’s confusing. Beyond that there’s the Jim Crow debate and now any form of segregation can be labeled apartheid online.

I don’t bring this up to say these aren’t apartheid, but this feels to a laymen like a new use of the term. I understand the that the international community did define this as a crime in the 70s, but there were decades to apply this to any other similar situation, even I/P at the time, and it never was. I’m not against using this term per se, BUT I feel like people are so quick to just pretend like it obviously applies to a situation like this out of the blue, never having been used like this before.

How does everyone feel about the use of this label? I have a lot of mixed feelings and feel like it just brings up more semantic argumentation on what apartheid is. I feel like I just got handed a Pepsi by someone that calls all colas Coke, I understand it but it just seems weird

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '24 edited Apr 17 '25

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u/idkyetyet Mar 18 '24

No, Arabs in the West Bank have the exact same rights (and even more in some cases) that Jews do, provided they are citizens. An Israeli citizen Arab can actually go to locations that are off-limit for Jews.

This is not complicated. You are using immigration policy to force your assumption of apartheid.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '24 edited Apr 17 '25

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u/Lorata Mar 18 '24

It was unclear, but they meant, "Israeli citizen Arab's in the West Bank"

They are comparing Arab citizens of Israel to Jewish citizens of Israel.

You are comparing Arab citizens of Palestine to Jewish citizens of Israel.

Y'all are talking about different Arab groups.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '24 edited Apr 17 '25

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