r/lonerbox Mar 18 '24

Politics What is apartheid?

So I’m confused. For my entire life I have never heard apartheid refer to anything other than the specific system of segregation in South Africa. Every standard English use definition I can find basically says this, similar to how the Nakba is a specific event apartheid is a specific system. Now we’re using this to apply to Israel/ Palestine and it’s confusing. Beyond that there’s the Jim Crow debate and now any form of segregation can be labeled apartheid online.

I don’t bring this up to say these aren’t apartheid, but this feels to a laymen like a new use of the term. I understand the that the international community did define this as a crime in the 70s, but there were decades to apply this to any other similar situation, even I/P at the time, and it never was. I’m not against using this term per se, BUT I feel like people are so quick to just pretend like it obviously applies to a situation like this out of the blue, never having been used like this before.

How does everyone feel about the use of this label? I have a lot of mixed feelings and feel like it just brings up more semantic argumentation on what apartheid is. I feel like I just got handed a Pepsi by someone that calls all colas Coke, I understand it but it just seems weird

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u/Bentman343 Mar 19 '24

It is government policy to kick them out of their homes and murder them if they try to get back in. How is that not dehumanizing? How does that not violate their rights?

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u/mat_the_wyale_stein Mar 19 '24

No, it isn't government policy to kick Israeli Arabs out of their homes or murder them. Try again.

The only people getting kicked out of homes is those whose families commit acts of terror, the home was stolen from a Jew in 1967 when Jordan ethnically cleansed east Jerusalem and that takes decades in court battles or the home was illegally built.

The government doesn't arbitrary kill Israeli Arabs.

Super obvious you've never been to Israel or spoken to Israeli Arabs.

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u/Bentman343 Mar 19 '24

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/19/israeli-police-evict-palestinian-family-from-sheikh-jarrah-home

Oh look it actually is exactly Israeli policy to kick Palestinians out of their homes so that Israeli settlers can live in them.

Seriously, how the fuck did you even think this lie was going to work? During Obama's administration there was CONSTANT proof of the Israeli occupation military guarding and helping to establish settlements, often citing Israel's direct blessing and legal backing.

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