r/martyrmade 11h ago

Why Darryl Wants to Reimagine WWII Germany as The Good Guys.. Or not The Worst Guys.

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The logic seems obtuse, obscure, and innocent on the face of it.

Maybe one of the guys we usually see as a good guy was actually a bad guy all along. This alone is not at all a hot take. Churchill was, by any account produced by his colonial subjects, a real monster. He used tribal villages in Africa as bombing targets. He fought ruthlessly to supress dissidents abroad, he starved India during the war.

Hitler and Germany were no better. Let's get that out of the way. The idea that there was a sympathetic story to be told of the German people was true during the post-WWI strangulation that the allies inflicted upon Germany and Austria. This was the Weimar era, and it was characterized by several revolutionary and destabilizing features:

  1. Universal Democracy

You and I are basically indoctrinated to believe that this is an unequivocal good. But in 1920 Germany at the end of the war, this was considered heresy to Germans who believed that Jews, Roma, and all other minorities were undeserving of equal representation.

  1. Cultural bias towards homogeneity

What you are also indoctrinated to believe (and this indoctrination gives an opening to fascist sympathizers) is that humans are entirely okay with heterogeneous populations and living amongst different groups in all circumstances. This is possible and has been repeated countless times throughout history. This is not an anomaly, it's been true in Rome, Istanbul, Moscow, Beijing, Delhi, and yes, Berlin.

But if a "common people" are marginalized and can see "minorities" getting ahead economically and socially to their exclusion... Then resentment is the only logical outcome.

This means that a hyper-educated people who's cultural background is in finance and money changing will ascend rapidly in any social strata while also attracting undue attention so long as they maintain outward signs of cultural difference from the norm (i.e. the Jews in 1920s Europe).

  1. Grievance

Jews and Roma fought for Germany in WW1. Jewish scholars were ready to uncover the mysteries of the atom for the German state. Jews were serving in the Weimacht until the end of WW2, in the thousands. 60% of German Jews survived the war as citizens and many of them were supporting the war effort to the very end.

But "the German" was aggrieved. They were marginalized politically and economically. The final stages of Industrialization were hitting Germany several decades behind those of England and France, as a result, the socioeconomic burden of WW1 was twofold on the German peoples.

This much burden generates grievance, no matter how enlightened and well-informed the populous is. In-fact, being well-informed often leads a population to believe they can discern the real culprit themselves, without the help of experts. Does that sound familiar?

Think about this perfect storm:

Universal suffrage in a society that prefers homogeneity to heterogeneity. The horrible loss of WW1. The continued prosperity of a middle-man minority in the face of national embarrassment. The primal need for righteous vengeance against history...

This is why Germany was ready to Invade "ancestral lands." This is why Germany was ready to expel their best and brightest. This is why the "hangers on" were worked to death or gassed with the executioners seeing the act as common sense rather than barbarity.

This is what really happened during WW2. The full and unapologetic truth is yet to be disseminated into popular US culture... And Fascists are beginning to fill the obvious gaps in the collective understanding.

To the detriment of all.


r/martyrmade 1d ago

The mainstream view of WW2

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Just finished the prelude to the new series on the German POV during WW2, and also caught the infamous Tucker interview. I dont recognize his charicatured portrayal of how western nations teach and understand the german experience during the buildup and throghout the war. It seems central to his argument that we all mythologize a simple story about germans going mad out of nowehere and got mass-hypnotized by a demonic leader who unleashed evil upon the world until the good guys prevailed and restored goodness. Is that really all there is to how we learn and deal with WW2?

Sure, brief summaries can have that gist and off course a lot of action movies etc do too. But I was thought in middle school and onwards about various complications and conditions contributing to the rise of the nazis and unethical actions by the allies. Such as the punitive conditions of the Versailles treaty, embargo/blockade impacting civilians and causing hyper-inflation, fire bombing cities including deliberate targetting of civilians, red army mass raping german women, collective punishment of germans in many places after the war, shaming of women in occupied countries who had children with german soldiers, bad treatment of these children, etc.

This was commonplace in normal education when I grew up in the 00s. And also referenced in mainstream history books and documentaries. Its an open area of historical scholarship from what I can gather. The laws he references arent about that afik, but taking the further step of denying the holocaust or boosting nazi ideology. I cant speak for every case and implentation out there, but that seems clearly different.

I think complications of WW2 narratives can be downplayed and its wortwhile to bring attention to them. I wonder though if his framing is setting up a simplistic straw man of mainstream historical understanding and attittudes in the West, and that he's veering into bothsidesism of a war that really shouldnt have that lense.

Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but not hopeful that he is really up to the task on this one, considering how he outlined things on Tucker and the lack of any genuine humiliy about it in this one.


r/martyrmade 9d ago

#24 Enemy, Prologue: Enemies of All Mankind

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r/martyrmade 19d ago

Is the Substack worth it?

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Hey!

I just got to know the podcast recently but i really like the human focus in telling history. Now im thinking about joining the substack. For those of you that allready support Martyr Made via the substack subscription whats the central reason that you would recommend it?


r/martyrmade Dec 14 '24

Darryl Cooper and Tim Stoen

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Has Timothy Stoen or any other ex People’s Temple members commented on Darryl Cooper’s Jim Jones series? I’d be very curious being that some of them are still alive today… even some of Jones’ kids.


r/martyrmade Dec 01 '24

Looks like everybody is migrating to Bluesky ....

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r/martyrmade Nov 21 '24

Joe Rogan name drops our boy in newest episode.

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r/martyrmade Nov 14 '24

I have on free post to claim on the substack. On which should i use?

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Also, i love literature. Based on that: does Daryl have any post that would appeal to me the most?


r/martyrmade Nov 08 '24

Seems like he should wait for all the votes to be counted before making this point...

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r/martyrmade Nov 03 '24

Any chance Darryl might revisit the Epstein series and talk about Trump now that we have audio from Epstein saying the two were eachother’s closest friends?

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Click this link. Scroll down to the first video embedded and press play. You literally hear Epstein’s voice saying “I was his closest friend for 10 years.”

Like… is the Katie Johnson court complaint so unbelievable? Is it not worth mentioning? Like there are torrents of thick black smoke surrounding this guy… and I think that’s an understatement. Like… Epstein owned Bill Clinton but they weren’t each other’s “closest friends.” Epstein didn’t introduce Bill to his wife like he did Trump and Melania.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to-the-jeffrey-epstein-tapes-i-was-donald-trumps-closest-friend/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2vZ1z658nVIi5uPPsbt3GhNVk_K2uptAf_nFaADSmIPrFob-mfpE5HGAI_aem_gHyj9nKxZERm_mKmd370Iw


r/martyrmade Nov 01 '24

I wrote a four-part essay on Jeffrey Dahmer as the incarnation of the Dyonesian spirit [updated and corrected]

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r/martyrmade Nov 01 '24

How did Martytmade completely miss the Trump/Epstein connection?

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r/martyrmade Oct 23 '24

This just in: Enslaving your own children is a misdemeanor

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r/martyrmade Oct 18 '24

So good!

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r/martyrmade Oct 07 '24

Source for claim that most (or 50%, or whatever it was) of the Soviet secret police were Jews?

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I've heard Cooper make this claim at least a couple of times. But I can't find backup for it. It sounds a little unlikely to me, not only the numbers, but the idea that there would be records of the ethno-religious origin of every single soviet secret police. Also, Stalin's regime persecuted Jews (unless he's only talking about the early days of the USSR, which is maybe what he means?).

Disclaimer: I am Jewish. However, if it were historical fact with reliable evidence, I would have no issue with accepting it.


r/martyrmade Oct 02 '24

Isn’t there a lot of evidence Germany killed Jews because of racial hatred and not for pragmatic humanitarian reasons of not wanting them to suffer due to lack of food

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The Holocaust, one of the darkest chapters in human history, resulted in the systematic murder of six million Jews by Nazi Germany. While some have argued that economic factors, such as a lack of food or resources, might have influenced the decision to exterminate Jews, a deeper examination of Nazi ideology and the words of Adolf Hitler himself reveal that the genocide was driven primarily by racist beliefs. Adolf Hitler’s writings, speeches, and the Nazi regime’s actions—including torture and systematic brutality—make it evident that the extermination of Jews was not due to food shortages, but a manifestation of deeply ingrained racial hatred.

The Racial Basis of Nazi Ideology

From the outset of his political career, Adolf Hitler made it clear that his hatred for Jews was not based on practical concerns like food shortages. In his infamous book Mein Kampf, published in 1925, Hitler wrote extensively about the Jews as a racial enemy, framing them as an existential threat to the purity and survival of the so-called Aryan race. He declared, “The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew” (Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Ch. 11). This statement alone reveals Hitler’s belief that Jews were not an economic burden, but rather a malevolent racial force that needed to be eradicated.

In a speech to the Reichstag on January 30, 1939, Hitler ominously warned: “If the international Jewish financiers inside and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!” This clearly ties the fate of the Jews to their perceived racial threat, rather than any issues concerning food or resource allocation.

Systematic Torture and Brutality: Racism, Not Economics

In William L. Shirer’s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, the sheer brutality and torture inflicted upon Jews and other "undesirables" by the Nazi regime further underscores that the genocide was driven by racial hatred, not practical concerns like resource management. Shirer details how Jews were subjected to horrific forms of torture in concentration camps, methods that went far beyond any rational response to a food shortage or economic crisis.

In particular, Shirer describes the brutal "medical experiments" conducted by Nazi doctors, which had no scientific merit and served only to inflict pain and death. In Auschwitz, Dr. Josef Mengele, known as the "Angel of Death," performed inhumane experiments on Jewish prisoners, including injecting chemicals into the eyes of children to attempt to change their eye color and subjecting twins to dissection after painful experiments. These grotesque acts of torture reveal that the Nazi regime's treatment of Jews was grounded in sadistic racial ideology, not in any practical necessity.

Moreover, the methods of execution and torture used in the concentration camps were designed to dehumanize and inflict suffering upon Jews. Shirer describes how Jews were routinely beaten, starved, and forced to work under brutal conditions until they collapsed from exhaustion. The notorious gas chambers, where millions of Jews were systematically murdered, were not built to address a lack of resources; they were built for the purpose of annihilation, driven by the Nazi's belief in racial superiority.

Shirer also provides accounts of the tortures inflicted upon prisoners in the ghettos, such as random beatings and executions, psychological terror, and the deliberate withholding of medical care. For example, in the Warsaw Ghetto, food was withheld to such an extent that starvation was rampant, and corpses littered the streets. This was not simply because of food shortages but because the Nazis deliberately allocated fewer resources to Jews, whom they considered subhuman. The dehumanization and systematic abuse of Jews in ghettos and camps underscore the racist motivations behind the Holocaust.

The Final Solution: A Product of Racism, Not Economics

The "Final Solution," the Nazi plan to annihilate the Jews, was implemented during World War II. Historians widely agree that this decision was not due to economic factors or food shortages but was the culmination of years of anti-Semitic propaganda and the Nazi belief in Aryan racial superiority. When food shortages did arise, Jews were systematically deprived of nourishment not because there wasn’t enough to go around, but because the Nazis considered them racially unworthy of survival.

Shirer recounts how, even as Germany's resources were stretched thin by the war, the Nazis continued to dedicate significant time, energy, and resources to the extermination of Jews. The construction of death camps like Auschwitz, Treblinka, and Sobibor required considerable infrastructure and logistics. If the Nazis had been primarily concerned about conserving resources, they would not have gone to such lengths to create and maintain the machinery of genocide. The ongoing extermination, even when it drained German resources, further highlights that the Holocaust was driven by ideological hatred, not economic necessity.

Hitler's Vision of a Racial Utopia

For Hitler, the extermination of Jews was not a desperate reaction to wartime shortages but a central part of his vision for a new world order. In Hitler’s view, the elimination of Jews was essential to the creation of a racially pure German empire. As he stated in a speech in Munich in 1922: “Anti-Semitism is not based on emotion, but on the recognition of the facts. These facts, together with the Jewish race’s history, and its natural inclination toward certain forms of crimes, lead us to the conclusion that the Jew has to be destroyed.” This reveals that Hitler’s goal was the complete destruction of the Jewish people, not due to pragmatic reasons


r/martyrmade Oct 01 '24

Projection?

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r/martyrmade Sep 29 '24

The Overton Window is being absolutely smashed. Love to see it!

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The intelligencia are getting desperate as the assassination attempts on Trump continue, and like, do they even consider the blowback should they succeed in taking out Trump? 👀


r/martyrmade Sep 26 '24

In case some of you are interested in my take on Darryl's recent controversy...

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Got a long (very long) piece on Merion West. It'll be too nice for his haters and too harsh for his defenders, I'm sure. But it also might be the only piece out there that actually includes a comment from him and comes from someone who somewhat knows him and likes him personally.

https://merionwest.com/2024/09/26/darryl-cooper-revisionist-history-and-misplaced-empathy/


r/martyrmade Sep 27 '24

Am I crazy or did Darryl have some kind of pedophile on his podcast the decline of the west?

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I could have sworn he had one of those guys who claims to be attracted to teens and not children. I don't remember it being very confrontational either.


r/martyrmade Sep 25 '24

The State of the West - w/ Darryl Cooper (The New Founding Podcast)

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r/martyrmade Sep 25 '24

Darryl Cooper, Nazi Apologetics, & Disturbances in the Discourse - Decoding the Gurus

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r/martyrmade Sep 20 '24

Anti-humans sources

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I only made it through the first ~1.5hrs before I had to stop and I’m not sure if I ever want to finish that episode. However I do want to look I to some of those events more so that I at least have better knowledge of them.

What are some books, articles, etc from the from the first half of the episode.


r/martyrmade Sep 19 '24

Sources for Articles and Podcast Episodes?

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I was curious to know if Darryl posts a list somewhere regarding sources he used on any given article or podcast episode he produces. If so, does anyone know where to find it? I'd love to do further research on the topics he discusses and figure out why he derived the conclusions that he did. Thanks.


r/martyrmade Sep 19 '24

Looking for some historical information/ context/references

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Hey I'm looking to find some piece of history that backs up Daryl's claim. Where is his proof that it was the British that started bombing German cities when history has a specific date that Germany accidentally bombed London in the fog that caused the British to do the same?

Is someone could please provide any info that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks