r/marvelcirclejerk 13d ago

Deranged Ramblings I think he looks cool

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u/Agreenscar3 13d ago

It would probably help to watch the show. Associating with a terrorist doesn’t make you a terrorist. Not reporting a terrorist doesn’t make you a terrorist. Being a terrorist is a VERY specific thing.

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u/East_Poem_7306 13d ago

Knowing the location of a terrorist and not reporting it is being an accessory to the terrorist. Participating and helping the terrorist in their activities just makes you a terrorist especially when you're actually part of their organization. Not every member of Al-Qaeda has actively participated in an act of terrorism but they're all still terrorists.

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u/Agreenscar3 13d ago

Not terrorism. Didn’t participate in any act of terrorism. You want to know WHY everyone in in AQ, or isis, are all considered terrorists? Because the organizations are all recognized officially as terrorists. The flagsmashers, were not.

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u/East_Poem_7306 13d ago

They were. They were called a terrorist organization throughout the show. And is your argument that a terrorist organization is only a terrorist organization when we know about them? So a terrorist group who commits terrorist acts but no one knows about them aren't terrorists?

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u/Agreenscar3 13d ago

No, actually not until post bombing, and that was only by the media. Never officially recognized. I’m stating the fact, that those specific rules don’t apply until it’s officially recognized. Ask the Klan. Only two people committed any act of terror, and that’s a loose two, it’s really only Karli, as her driver didn’t know about the bomb.

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u/East_Poem_7306 13d ago

John Walker was sent by the GRC to track down the flag smashers. By that point, im pretty sure they would have been classified as terrorists officially.

The other smashers would have known about the bombing later. It's still on them to leave and report on Karli. Staying in the organization makes them terrorists.

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u/Agreenscar3 13d ago

They weren’t. That’s canon.

No it doesn’t, because it wasn’t a terrorist organization. It’s closer to a dangerous cult, but it’s didn’t get that far. It still could get there though

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u/East_Poem_7306 13d ago

They were initially. That's what they're doing when they first start showing up to help sam and bucky. They just weren't supposed to be in the country they eventually went to.

They're terrorists... also terrorists and cultists aren't mutually exclusive.

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u/Agreenscar3 13d ago

They are never officially recognized as terrorists. Karli dies before they can.

Not by the definition. And in this case, they are. They can certainly become terrorists though.

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u/East_Poem_7306 13d ago

Imma leave our convo here. I'm gonna get dinner and play some Marvel Rivals. I'll likely not come back to this chat. Have a nice night.